RSO Made with bho machine

Hash and Stuff Extraction
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Is there a way to make RSO using my bho extraction machine? I am just curious, if anyone can help that’d be sweet

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yes. remove hydrocarbon. replace with ethanol. push with N2. adjust recovery and solvent tank temps. use your recovery pump + hot/cold to move/recover the solvent. Search results for 'ethanol PX1' - Future4200

or just use a bucket instead…Bucket Tek (Cold Ethanol Extraction on a Budget)

Edit: while you’re at it, check: Search results for 'RSO' - Future4200

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Depends on what your definition of rso is. If you just want a full spec oil with all the lipids and chlorophyll junk typically found in rso you could run warm butane through your cls and then just collect and declarb the full spec crude.

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requires residual naptha to qualify as RSO right? :thinking:

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Any decarboxylated THC is RSO. The solvent is honestly irrelevant unless you’re Rick himself who swears by that nasty ass naptha.

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You’ll want ethanol if you’re looking for an rso type product. It’ll pull more water solubles than pane/tane will.

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Take warm bho run, partially Decarb at 180-200 f for 30 min for a full spectrum oil (includes thca)

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No need to purge butane in vac oven since you’re going straight to decarb

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Well the story being Rick Simpsons cannabis oil was he had skin cancer and naptga is not only a solvent but also a skin irritant. So he kinda screwed himself. It worked he got rid of his cancer with his supposed “Phoenix Tears”.

Though, for safety and for healthier consumption RSO is made with 190-proof Ethanol and distilled down into and oil, then decarbed for oral consumption.

My method is a 4 minute stir-wash in an ethanol/dry ice bath in a stainless bucket then filtered thru a 190-Micron bubble bag into another stainless bucket or a pyrex glass bowl.
Then I take that green mixture and distill that down to an oil, then decarb for consumption.

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Right there is the part that trips a lot of folks.

You are absolutely distilling, but you are distilling the ethanol off your oil, not distilling your oil.

“If I boil the solvent in a rotovap, I’ve made distillate right?” Is not where I think you are, but trust me, I get that question more often than I’d like, and my wiring won’t let me let it slide here.

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Not talking about distilling to distillate. I’m talking about boiling the etoh off enough until it’s an oil. Not distilling the crude into distillate.

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Evap not distill then

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Okay, so evaporate all the etoh you can in a rotovap/simple distillation apparatus until it’s an oil. Then decarb that oil.

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I use a modified version of this

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I’m sure you mean feco
Rick is a bitch,
I don’t see why bho isn’t feco, except you get a small amount of water solubles even if you used dry etoh because it’s polar and non polar and muffuggas against butane.
Edible bho edible distillate and edible feco are all the same molecule with differing amounts of non-actives

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Ethanol is still cleaner nmw though.

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Technically speaking a warm butane extract is probably more similar to a naptha extract than ethanol is.

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In discussion the other day, a colleague suggested that the polarity of RSO/FECO extracted with hydrocarbon is different than the polarity of RSO/FECO extracted with ethanol…and the implication was that the polarity of the ethanol version may create a better medicine.

So I did some initial searches on Future and this is the closest thread I found.

I understand that ethanol is polar and hydrocarbons are non-polar. I understand polarity affects what a solvent will extract. I also understand there is a lot more nuances at play.

I believe a cold ethanol extraction and a cold hydrocarbon extraction produce a very similar full spectrum extract that I would essentially consider “the same” for oral consumption.

I realize different hydrocarbons will produce different extracts. I realize “medicine” is a vague term. I am using those terms for the sake of simplicity.

Questions:

  • If extracted at -40, which compounds will ethanol extract that hydrocarbons will not?
  • Is there a benefit to running warmer hydrocarbons? if so, what temp range makes the most sense?
  • Does polarity of an extract play into absorption/efficacy of oral consumption?
  • What other questions should I be asking?

Thank you in advance for any feedback and/or suggestions on where to learn more on this topic!

Edit #1: to include “FECO” when mentioning RSO
Edit #2: expanded explanation of my current knowledge and more specific questions

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Ethanol is polar protic . This means that you can not get rid of the water (in a practical sense) and even if you did you would only be extracting the last 8% biomass water as well.
So when you “think” you are using ethanol…remember you are really using ethanol water mixture. And RSO group ought to think about adding more water…and adjusting pH a bit….HMM polar-protic how does that work.
Yes etoh extracts h20 at -40.

The whole RSO thing is amusing.
In his original work, did “Rick” actually decarb?

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I wouldn’t consider Rick’s product as “work.” The real miracle isn’t that his cocktail cured his skincancer… its that he didn’t kill someone or get sued into oblivion. I actually purchased his video back in the day. I have it in box somewhere for nostalgia purposes. He purchased hardware store naphta, mixed and heated in barrel, and then sundried on plastic tarp. It was partially decarbed from heated solvent and sun. I think Ricky’s hash extraction method on trailer park boys was more sophisticated. I believe his mixture was so toxic, it did kill the cancer, along with any living cell it touched. I strongly discourage anyone from trying the original RSO SOP. @GroovyOctopusLabs gives a good description of modern retail RSO. I don’t entirely understand the logic of ingesting a bunch of heated chlorophyll, but perhaps some trace compounds get extracted with medicinal benefit. Personally, I’d rather eat a salad and consume clean extracts. I believe a multi-solvent wash would yield a fuller spectrum(Polar & Non-Polar), with less undesirable byproducts. The real question is:
What are the desirable compound groups found in Cannabis plants and at what dose?

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