We do have a cold trap between the vac and oven, and the oven tells us the set temp, and the current temp of the oven. We do not use a probe inside the material.
Nope. Not even close.
It will boil at -80C at that vacuum.
See: SPD vaper getting Through the trap - #53 by cyclopath for chart.
It boils at 78C at atm.
If you donât want the tools required to discuss this properly, how the fuck do we get on the same page?
When you use terms that are in general use in a non-consensus manner, you are not communicating effectively. Sorting that out first is the best way to get your issue solved.
If you donât have a proofing gauge, you shouldnât be reusing your solventâŚbecause you need to understand how it differs from your fresh solvent.
I believe water is your issue. Are you conditioning your biomass on intake? Or just extracting it however it comes in the door?
Decarb under vac is really helpful when heading to distillate, but if youâre target is âRsoâ, then using an open vat with overhead stirring and a temp probe (linked upthread) should be faster and more reliable than your current method.
Thank you for the help.
@cyclopath I have to stop eating these honey sticks while driving down the road⌠a mind is a terrible thing to waste, but it sure is fun
You could use your distillation rig to prove residual solvent and or water.
So long as you have a thermometer in the head, and can actually cool your condenser (ice/ice packs in the circulator will work)
This was painful to try and follow, nice work never giving up and pushing to find the proper spoon! This guy owes a major thank you for your continued help!
Iâm not convinced weâre there yetâŚbut we might be getting close.
Yes. You do. Youâre supposed to be selling them to medical dispensariesâŚ
2 sticks to the wind
Before actually wandering away from this, can I get confirmation that you are NOT extracting fresh frozen material with ethanol?
While âlive resinâ can be made with your choice of solvent (and âlive rosinâ sans solvent), the term is traditionally applied to hydrocarbon extraction on fresh frozen material.
If you are extracting wet material with ethanol, and reusing that solvent without drying it, this is your most likely source of water.
If the live resin was something you purchased, or made in house with hydrocarbons, then somebody needs to learn about Molecular sieve beads would be my best guess
Do your lab notes state if the âlive resinâ which buttered upon (accidental) âwinterizationâ was bought up in fresh (200 proof) or reused solvent? This allows you to distinguish between wet solvent & wet extractâŚ
Anyone following along should make sure they know this Tricks of the trade - #655 by CdpIchem for figuring your decarb end-point
Thanks @CdpIchem for sharing the tip!
Our BHO extracts sugar-up all the time (OK not ALL the time) and if its going to vape oil it is never winterized. Either way with enough heat and manual stirring (I start at 140c and move up accordingly), the shit WILL melt prior to decarb, and it WILL decarbâŚnature of the beast.
BTW, never under vacuum. On a hot plate with overhead stirring (once it has melted) and plenty of headspace for outgassing.
We are not extracting from fresh frozen material with ethanol. We use dry material and ethanol. Will be looking into water as an issue though.
Okay so here is my question:
You are having an issue with âbudderingâ of what you describe as sugar. Both sugar and budder involve crystalization which requires THCa.
You then talk about decarbing. In order to have sugar or budder, you must have THCa which means decarb has not been completed.
Is your goal a decarbâd (all d9) product or a product with THCa in it?
P.S. I 100% endorse @cyclopathâs recommendation of getting some bromocresol green.