R134a crude extract into diamonds/high value products?

Sounds like poison, same with any other hazardous solvent including your pentane and other stuff. Just to make something in the lab to prove it has 0ppm is one thing. But making a scalable operation where you are using poisonous solvents when safe solvents can be used makes me so sad…

Why use unsafe practices when there is better options that are safe, scalable and proven to work on huge scale.

Makes me think those who choose that path are greedy and don’t care about safe products.

I mean, what construction builder is going to use asbestos or lead in their buildings? Zero because we have learned that shit kills people. Staring hurting the workers building the house then hurts the family living in it.

I can ask you why you would use poisonous solvents, but I already know the answer… Simply Greed.

Please stop this madness and go work for McDonald’s so you can continue to poison our families in a different way

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You probably think asbestos is banned

You probably think your vegetable oil is made with fairy dust and wishes instead of hexane

You probably think ethanol doesn’t have heptane in it in 99% of extractions facilities

You probably think all of the diamonds on this site were just made with butane instead of recrashing in pentane.

I understand your beliefs, they just do t have a lot in common with facts.

I’m sorry you are so triggered by something I brought up I was learning about. Hope you have a better day

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Of course I think vegetable oil is made of fairy dust.

Don’t be an ass, be an adult and have a real conversation.

In construction we don’t use asbestos in the ways the did in the past and in comparison would not even be to what may exist in currently new products, yet often there is a better solution to that with premium products that don’t use harmful chemicals.

You didn’t offend me, I just don’t like to see people profit while making products that are harmful, even add levels that are acceptable, what is acceptable is not having chemcial processing in products that are inhaled or consumed by humans. That’s all

Like telling me I’m greedy and poisoning people and should work at McDonald’s?

You don’t really seem to have a grasp on this chemistry stuff so I’m not gonna argue with a wall on this. Believe what you want.

You know that asthma inhalers are filled with the stuff you are calling poison right?

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How are you making this ?

I just woke up and I scratched my head like: What about the people who don’t hit 0ppm? Are you telling me R-134a can be an unsafe solvent if the products pushed were to be at unsafe ppm levels.

Wow that sounds like butane, propane, ethanol, pentane, heptane … see where I’m going with this.

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I hear you’re working with a 50L machine, waiting on those COAs. Tough spot, right? R134a might seem like an odd choice, but let’s give it a chance. The terpene-rich result could be a game-changer, even if the cartridge market’s a bit shaky.

Considering a shift to dabbable products? Totally doable. Equipment like a rotovap, vac oven, and short path could be worth pitching to the owners. Sure, a BHO system might have seemed simpler, but R134a has its safety perks – it’s non-explosive, no need for chillers, and selectively pulls aromatics.
Stay positive, my friend! R134a might have some surprises up its sleeve.

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BHO is simpler than R-134a. Using a CRC and a more propane rich blend you’re more likely to pull more terps and still make diamonds.

If you’re going to be looking into processing distillate with an SPD then the fact that you’re pulling with R-134a is moot because you’re still going to have to go through a major purification and refinement process before it even hits the SPD.

A rotovap is only work it for recovering solvents like ethanol, pentane, heptane, hexane and methanol. EHO and Distillate have large market growth in states that have ridiculous PPM limits for hydrocarbons (supposedly).

Even with R-134a, do you not think you’ll need a vacuum oven?

I’ve said it once before, if you’re not able to purge an R-134a extract down to a low enough ppm, when you dab it you’re going to be inhaling some nasty bi-products of R-134a…

I’ve been arguing for years that R134a in automotive air conditioning systems should be replaced with propane. :man_shrugging:t2:

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