Quality ball valves

Nope can’t read a lick.
Just look at all the pretty pictures.

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Yeah I figured that much. All I’m saying is you shouldn’t be so quick to assume or insinuate that people keep a dirty work space. If you had read more carefully you would have seen that I already stated it was a brand new valve. I never said it was “the fault of the valve” it was however the fault of the manufacturer.

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Quarter inch valves though

There is TONS of size, look through the site…

Yea I’ve bought from them before they are slightly discounted used ones, but finding brand new in our size is almost impossible

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The ball valves i got from @GreenMachine_Consult for my solvent tanks are some of the only ones that dont leak on me when i pass chilled solvent through them

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Glad to hear it! We use the black handle hydraulic ball valves rated to 3000 PSI with PTFE gaskets on the balls so they can handle a wide range of temps.

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Whats your pricing on 3/8

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They’re $93.84 a piece

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Just remember to tighten your GML handles at the allen wrench key. Without tightening I’ve never seen them leak, but they can be turned beyond their ‘stop’ point.

Whoa, who’s the manufacturer? Those are compression right, at Swagelok 3/8 prices?

I’ve never had a leak on Superlok 210 series at -60F at less than $50/valve.

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They’re swagelok clones we get from a manufacturer down the street from our manufacturing facility :grin: we’ve been buying ball valves from them for over a decade.

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@GreenMachine_Consult Are they copying Swagelok’s patented live loaded packing design and therefore in violation of Swage’s patent, or do the valves lack this feature and therefore don’t perform as well across a variety of temperatures compared to the Swagelok?

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You’re asking and insinuating at the wrong guy, friend. We make stainless vessels, not valves. My guess is no, but I’ve run these exact valves from -96C to 100c with no issues, never had to change any in over a year that I was actively using them on my system and I’ve not once had to replace one for a client. Personally I hate swagelok and compression fittings on extraction systems, but to each their own.

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I’m not insinuating anything I’m asking a question. Are they a knockoff that lacks certain features to not step over any lines, or are they clones that are identical to Swagelok and are slipping under their radar?

If you are promoting and profiting off the suggestion and sale of the parts that you’re selling at Swagelok prices (actually about $7 more than what I pay for Swagelok SS-43GS6 valves for your unspecified brand clone), I figured you would know how said parts are constructed. No insults intended, inquiry of details to understand reason behind price the only motive. I’m a value minded purchaser if I’m spec’ing out 54 valves across a system. If your motive isn’t to sell these valves then I apologize for misunderstanding your intent.

And since we’re trading digs now, friend, What’s wrong with Swagelok? What’s your problem with compression fittings, an oil and gas industry standard? Forgive me if I am skeptical of opinions on details of closed loop hydrocarbon extractors supplied from someone who suggested I chill material columns with LPG as the coolant. I would love to learn the why’s of both.

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I don’t believe they have any parts or pieces that are of a patented design. They’re standard hydraulic 3000 PSI ball valves with a large internal diameter and PTFE gaskets. Pricing simply reflects a standard retail markup from what I get them for, I’m not committed to these if I’m getting fleeced price-wise, but I’ve never once had an issue in five years now and that’s worth paying extra for them, to me. I do sell them but I am not trying to push them on you or anyone for that matter, they aren’t even a product of mine, I sell them for convenience. Compression fittings are annoying as fuck to change, install, and use. Swagelok quick connects that are on a ton of systems nowadays leak like a bitch with anything under -10c which is dangerous as shit, the inner diameter of the compression fittings and valves is tiny, they’re just not my preferred choice for ease of use or overall efficiency. I can definitely guarantee you I have never in my life recommended someone chill anything with LPG as a coolant, you must be confused.

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Thanks for the clarification and correction, I apologize for the mix-up

I agree with you 100% on quick disconnects. I do not ever use them.

What is your preferred connection method?

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Depends on the size of the system, for ethanol usually 1.5 inch sanitary piping the entire way through, jacketed if necessary. AS far as hydrocarbon I’ve always liked the tried and true flare fittings. One thing I do like about compression is the fact you don’t need to thread seal anything, but that’s the only benefit in my mind. Maybe I just have confirmation bias since flare fittings are what I’ve always used for years and years now. At one of my weekly consulting gigs they have an ETS machine and after working on it for half a year now I’ve grown to hate it. Show me the light Samurai! What am I missing brotha?

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O ring face seal! Super easy to service, make and break forever, seal amazingly well. Work way better for high vacuum than compression. And they’re more or less minion proof.

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love em, zero-clearance, and arguably much more hygienic too! Not the cheapest route tho, but def a joy to use and work on.

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