Im not sure but I do know that Xtractor depot does not.
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All of my pure propane extracts have been runny to the point of not being able to flip in any way unless frozen to -2°F and the 70/30 pro/but blends seems to stablize around 32°F. I have yet to make any kind of sugar or shatter or even batter eith a propane dominant blend. When i’ve run propanr in my cls the pressure doesnt go beyond 70psi. I know that if warmed that the pressure can exponentially increase but is a 250-30psi rating really required? I’m not against a better pressure rating in any way, just honestly curious.
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No one that I am aware of. This individual was incorrectly informed that his system can handle 100% propane and that’s what caused the injury. The post after yours says it all.
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If your running chilled solvent I would say it isn’t necessarily required, but in the event your chiller fails its extremely comforting to have a system capable of handling the consequent pressure spike. Whats the humidity like where you are? Im in socal and id say its pretty easy to get sugar from propane dominant runs. Especially on high humidity days. Sauce is a little bit more tricky if your going for diamonds due to the fast evaporation rate.
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as far as I know, they don’t exist.
which was my point.
sorry if that wasn’t clear…
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What is considered the safe pressure rating required for running pure propane?
3x the highest operating pressure you will see using propane is the right way to figure out safe pressure. Personally, i wouldnt use anything above a 4" clamp using pure propane.
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I just looked up some numbers and the vapour pressure of propane at 40C is approx 200 psi. I figure that if you plan to run cryo cooled columns and solvent then there should be no reason for solvent to get that warm anywhere in the system but best to overshoot for safety. So this multiplied by 3 gives a system rated for 600 psi. Does that sound right?
Anyone on here run propane systems and if so what pressure do you see during runs and what pressure are they rated for?
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The system I’m using is rated for 350 psi max pressure. when I run propane it never exceeds 150 psi max
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which seems about right to me. where do your PRV’s let loose?
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They let out at 350 psi. And they’re located on nearly every vessel on the system.
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I am on an ets as well, and have only been using propane, we are trying to do a crystal run today I think butane would be a better solvent for that since we don’t have any mixes ready, what do you guys think, if you had to go 100 one way or the other, i would think butane would give me a more shatter pour like consistency, if i leave it runny which is harder to do with the propane.
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Propane is very difficult to get to stay as a liquid in my experience. I always end up with a solid muffin inside the collection pot, which I believe is because of the evaporation rate. With that being said getting good sized diamonds is a bit tricky with pure propane again because of evaporation rate. Propane will help with getting a lot less fats so precipitation of the crystals should happen easier but mine always come out with that sand like texture. Ive only ever done it with high propane ratios though, and I have never tried it with pure pane. let me know how it goes if you do it, I’m interested to see how that would come out. Pure butane comes out too dark for my liking, but the evaporation rate is a lot easier to get those big rocks forming. If your solvent tank is chilled I would say use the butane but if youre using a standard recovery tank like I am right now, I would say propane will give you a way better color.
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Don’t know if I’d grow in anything other than pressure vessel though…
You could essiontionally evap all propane then remelt with tane and follow SOP
Is anything about doing that bad, would remelt in tane hurt anything…
I still would like to see some pure pane grown Crystals that be bad ass I’m sure
It doesn’t seem like that would cause any issues but I’m not sure to be perfectly honest. its worth a try. Do you have a pressure vessel? and if so have you ever tried using nitrogen? I’ve never had the opportunity to use one and I’m curious to see if that would work.
The addition of n2 won’t effect it much. solvent pressure inside the Dimond miner is preferred. From what I’ve observed heat and a carefull saturation to the metastable region, followed by seeding is the most effective way to grow large Dimond’s. Small amounts of pressure are bled in increments over weeks, this will allow the crystallization to continue.
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Extract with propane. Get it into your miner. Add a little butane to dissolve and crystallize from there. ?!?
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Im going to do a butane run tomorrow, and see how that turns out, but that might be an option, i could easily do that. But yeah im getting the muffin everytime with propane, which is fine. Do you guys have any tips for saturation times for the butane and propane, do you guys do the same for both and how long do you do? does it vary for live runs?
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I don’t soak at all. As soon as I can see the liquid from the sight glass I push it through to the collection vessel and use the vapor assist. If your not running a full sock I would guesstimate how much solvent it would take to fully submerge the material. The only thing I really soak for is crude oil runs. I also only fill the second or third column with solvent when I know theres enough space in the collection vessel to fit all the solvent I will be using. I find it helps with the dark color that you get towards the end of milking a column.
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