Peterson Research- No Purple HD9 THC. Perfect Antioxidant for Hemp D9 THC

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Hello Future4200!

Long-time lurker, first-time poster and I now come to you with what we’re calling Peterson Research.

I’ve been in the cannabis space for the past 10 years and have been making Converted D9 oil for the past 4 years. We’ve officially exited the HD9 production scene and now are focusing exclusively on something every converted THC producer needs:

An antioxidant system that makes converted D9 THC oil indistinguishable from natural THC.
No purple oxidation. No clouding. Just perfect golden oil. every. single. time.

THE PROBLEM

Converted THC often turns dark purple over time due to oxidation, killing shelf appeal and making customer believe their oil is “fake” or “synthetic”.

Competing antioxidants on the market?

  • They can fall out of solution, causing clouding (We used someone else’s antioxidant once and it crashed, making the oil cloudy…customers called our carts “Cum Carts”)
  • Contain subpar ingredients like phytol that only provide short-term protection only

:test_tube: OUR SOLUTION

We synthesize our very own antioxidant + pigment system that:

:white_check_mark: Prevents purple oxidation completely
:white_check_mark: Lets you control the color of your THC oil (from natural gold to amber)
:white_check_mark: Is fully soluble in THC oil…no clouding, ever
:white_check_mark: Passes full panel testing
:white_check_mark: Requires only 1.25–2% per L (lower antioxidant = higher D9% on COAs)
:white_check_mark: Mimics the look and stability of natural THC oil

:package: FIELD-TESTED & SCALABLE

We currently treat 8,000–14,000+ liters/month nationwide.

:handshake: WHO WE’RE LOOKING FOR

We focus on quality over quantity because customer service and reliability is crucial. We recently scaled our operation and are now able to bring on a few new clients.
If you’re tired of purple oil or cloudy batches, we’d love to talk.

:money_with_wings: RESELLERS WELCOME – PROFIT SPLIT

Don’t produce D9 but sell CBD isolate or move bulk D9?
We offer a commission-based referral program:

:small_blue_diamond: You bring the relationship
:small_blue_diamond: We handle fulfillment
:small_blue_diamond: You earn a % of every order

Interested, reach out and let’s talk. Cheers!

Harold
:e_mail: Harold@petersonresearch.org
:mobile_phone: 858-771-7300

^Yes, AI helped us with the emojis.

Important to Note: Each component in our formulation individually has a well-established safety profile, but our formulation as a whole has not been tested by any 3rd party authority so we’re in the same boat as terpene suppliers where we have to say, this product is not intended for direct consumption, smoking, or ingestion. It is designed for further processing or use in accordance with applicable regulations.

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Is the 20g of “solution” per liter you add to your HD D9 THC food safe?

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PolyC, good question. Each component in our formulation individually has a well-established safety profile, but our formulation as a whole has not been tested by any 3rd party authority so we’re in the same boat as terpene suppliers where we have to say,

Intended Use: This product is not intended for direct consumption, smoking, or ingestion. It is designed for further processing or use in accordance with applicable regulations."

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Delicious mystery chemicals not intended for human use. Excellent contribution.

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Hey, I get the skepticism. It’s a valid concern, especially in this space. That’s exactly why we choose to be upfront when people ask. Appreciate the pushback though. Anyone who’s been in this industry knows we need more of it.

^I went ahead and updated the initial post to include it so it’s right at the very top when people open the thread

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No before and after pictures? What is it, some blend of carotenoids and a carrier?

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I’m a comin! I’ll get some pics posted up shortly

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So disclose the additives you are selling. You know, Vitamin E-Acetate is an Antioxidant too. Are you selling that? Putting a “disclaimer” does not absolve you from the requirement of disclosing ingredients which will be used for human consumption. The more established terpene companies are pulling considerable resources in determining safety profiles in their products because they realize that they are playing with proverbial fire. Abstrax, True Terpenes, Eybna, and more have full time Phd researchers who are establishing the very safety guidelines you are claiming to be following. Any of those companies will send me a 15+ page COA, SDS, MSDS, on any and all their products.

Who are you, what are you selling, why should we trust you?

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I appreciate the directness Ganjineer710

You’re absolutely right to bring up safety and transparency. The Vitamin E acetate mess is exactly why I’m cautious about what we put out. We’re not using Vitamin E acetate or anything remotely like it.

It’s a great suggestion and I get together full COAs and SDS sheets. If you’d like to go deeper into the data or chat directly, I’m happy to do that.

The antioxidant we developed is not a filler or diluent. It’s used at 1.25–2% by weight and is designed specifically to prevent purple oxidation in converted oil without materially affecting viscosity, flavor, or safety. It passes full panel testing and is fully soluble, avoiding the clouding you see with cheap additives.

Best,
Harold

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Hi Harold,

SDS, COAs, etc. would be a good starting point.

My concern is your claim of 14,000 liters/month. That means by the very least, 14,000,000 carts are being “treated” with an additive you still refuse to disclose.

Data please. Thats quite the claim.

Which full panel testing? Test results please.

Did you preform DPPH assay for the IC₅₀ measurement?

If you have more information that you would not like to share with the public, I’d be happy to review any DMs about the specifics of your product. If it is real, and you have data, and your claims can be backed… I’d probably be a good person to help you monetize said product. I am very skeptical.

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Hey, you’re asking the tough questions and it’s welcomed.

You’re right, 14,000L/month is a big number, and we wouldn’t be doing that volume if the product didn’t deliver consistently and safely. We’ve spent the last year refining this and just started to advertise yesterday so while we don’t have all of the answers to your questions, I’m sure we can work on getting you your answers.

To answer a few directly:

  • COA + SDS: I’ll DM you both when I have them.
  • “Full panel” means standard cannabis compliance testing: residual solvents, pesticides, heavy metals, microbials, mycotoxins, etc.
  • No Vitamin E, phytol, or alcohols. Nothing that spikes viscosity, clogs carts, or fails testing.

We haven’t run a DPPH assay yet for IC₅₀. but I’d like to learn more about what analytical tests should be ran. I’ll send you a DM and if you’re willing to dig into it, I’d really value your input.

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So you make something to stop the purple…But its not safe to inhale, ingest, topical… what is it good for?

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Actual chemical synthesis or “we mix shit together in a bucket and the marketing guys call it synthesis”?

Can’t even say GRAS?

I don’t believe this claim is possible.

It might have minimal affect on viscosity because it’s formulated to be similar to the products it’s being added to, but it would be far more appropriate to provide a viscosity number or range so someone can verify themselves what it would do when added to their product.

I’d be willing to bet your lawyer didn’t proofread your statements.

You might want to think about engaging them before you go much farther down this road.

Good thing I’m a meat popsicle. Where do I sign up?

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Good question. Yes, we make something that stops the purple but because our product has not been approved by the FDA or a regulated agency, similar to most terpene blends, there are some claims we cannot legally make.

It’s been really enlightening to hear everyone’s initial and perfectly valid concerns so we’re going to sit down and gather all of the documentation y’all have been asking for.

If anyone has any questions in specific, feel free to DM

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So if the product your selling to stop the “purple” in d9 isnt safe for inhalation, ingestion, (topicals?), then why promote and sell it? Chads cant be that fn stupid to poison people…AGAIN! Like with the vitamin E acetate, and dilutents (true terpenes fiasco).

Seems like you might as well sell ice to Eskimos.

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I previously read a post about using an antioxidant sourced from the plant itself, is that what this is? Sounds extremely interesting but I am also intrigued by the nature of the antioxidant since you mention it’s 1-2% of the blend (people would eventually consume a decent amount).

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I completely understand the skepticism, and I’ve actually appreciated responding since starting this thread as it keeps us sharp, and the feedback has raised some important points worth addressing.

Here are a few key clarifications:

“Not intended for direct consumption, smoking, or ingestion” does not mean the product is inherently unsafe.
This is standard language used for many compounds that are perfectly safe in the right context and dosage. A good example is tocopherol acetate (Vitamin E) which is safe in food and skincare, but NOT safe when vaporized and inhaled (as the industry painfully learned!!!). The key here is how and where something is used.

Source: FDA 21 CFR § 182.3173

GRAS (Generally Recognized As Safe) only applies to ingestion, not inhalation.
This is a common misconception. If someone says their vape additive is GRAS, that only means it’s safe to eat, not to inhale. Even propylene glycol, one of the most common carriers in vape products, is not GRAS for inhalation.
There is no FDA-approved list of inhalation-safe ingredients, because inhalation has a completely different risk profile involving lung exposure, heat degradation, and long-term bioaccumulation and very few chemicals in the market have been tested for inhalation.

Source: FDA GRAS Overview

Terpenes are commonly used in vape products and are GRAS for ingestion, but they are not GRAS or approved for inhalation. When vaporized, especially at high temperatures, terpenes like myrcene and limonene can degrade into toxic compounds such as benzene, isoprene, methacrolein, and formaldehyde. Studies have shown they may also cause airway irritation or inflammation, particularly at high concentrations.

Sources: M. M. Strongin et al., “Toxicant Formation in Dabbing,” ACS Omega, 2017; Kosmider et al., “Carbonyl Compounds in Electronic Cigarette Vapors,” Nicotine & Tobacco Research, 2016

MCT oil is GRAS for ingestion and widely used in food and supplements, but it is not GRAS or approved for inhalation. When aerosolized or vaporized, MCT and other lipid-based substances may pose a risk of lipoid pneumonia, a condition caused by inhaled fats accumulating in the lungs. Although MCT is commonly used as a diluent in vape products, there is no formal toxicological or thermal degradation data proving its safety when heated and inhaled. Health authorities, including the CDC, have specifically warned against inhaling oil-based substances, including MCT, following the 2019 EVALI outbreak.

Sources: CDC Health Advisory on EVALI (2019); “Evaluation of Chemicals in E-Cigarette Liquids and Aerosols,” National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine, 2018

That said, we’re actively building a transparent documentation package. Our formulation is:

  • Used at low concentrations
  • Fully soluble (doesn’t fall out or cloud)
  • Passes full panel compliance testing in finished oil (pesticides, residuals, heavy metals, etc.)

We’re working on compiling SDS, COAs, and third-party lab reports to make that available while also protecting our IP.

I appreciate the pushback. It’s been refreshing and a welcomed challenge to meet

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2% seems high honestly. I didn’t think you needed that much antioxidant to prevent discoloration. Is this a pure ingredient or an ingredient in a solution?

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You’re right Oscar, the actives in our formula are well under 0.2% and the remainder are ingredients that allow everything to dissolve nicely together.

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So .2% beta carotene and 99.8% CBD/CBG/CBC?

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