I don’t think so. I assume the labs test for the d8/d9 9-carboxy metabolite. I’m not even sure it has been established that HHC gets metabolized in a similar fashion. Or studied at all, for that matter.
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That was my understanding.
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We get bro.
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How and why are you still here
You have been exposed as a shitty person, now you’re gonna start flipping synthetics? I thought I’d seen it all.
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What about hair follicle
This is exactly what I’m referring to
How is this piece of shit @COVID-69 still here?
I don’t think the HHC metabolite is going to be confused with thcoo in LC/GC testing. As for immuno testing, maybe… Depending on how similar the binding structure is (epitope the right term?) to thcoo. But would definitely look different on the confirmation.
But this is all assuming no d9/8 in the product.
I’m gonna have to take a look into this. Antibody specificity is generally high for drug testing.
7-Hydroxy-CBD won’t make you fail an immunoassay, for example. Not confident on how similar its binding structure is to thcooh, though.
“Can I do XXX and still pass a drug test?”
I think the level of hostility towards this question is primarily because of the nature of why it’s being asked.
An individual asking this question because they need to pass a drug test is a different situation than a business (or someone representing a business) asking it because of the obvious conflict of interest that a business has.
A business has a BIG conflict of interest in that they have an incentive to sell more product, and having a product that allows you to pass drug tests will sell better than one that doesn’t.
The folks here are rightfully hesitant to entertain this conversation if it likely will result in a company making the decision to sell more product at the expense of individuals potentially losing jobs, livelihoods, going to jail, etc…
Maybe @COVID-69 isn’t the type to make that kind of dirty decision. But these threads are read by many people who don’t have the same ethics.
I don’t think it’s unreasonable to take the stance of “if you’re going to make claims to sell more product, do your own goddamn testing”.
Not to mention the crap-shoot that is Drug Testing in the first place. It’s almost impossible to definitely answer that question because you have to know the exact type of test and the limits to which its analyzed.
Which leads me to conclude that what is being asked isn’t at all “will I pass a drug test?”, it’s “Can I claim plausible deniability if my customers piss hot because of my products?”
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I’ve seen exactly one effort to fund legal defense for store owners/customers arrested for d8, I think at this point they’re just cannon fodder
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Hot take incoming:
If it was about getting medicine in the hands of those that need it despite legal hurdles, D8 and all the hot three-letter acronyms would have a robust traditional market presence.
They don’t. In fact, you see the opposite. You see dealers passing off mystery conversion oil as D9 because at the end of the day people wouldn’t knowingly buy this shit if they had access to clean, natural D9 straight from the cannabis plant.
I’ll give the benefit of the doubt to a very small handful of folks who I do think genuinely want to get medicine to people in non-legal states, but they are incredibly few and far between.
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This is actually the metabolite of HHC, so it does indeed metabolize similarly to THC. However, it says it’s minor metabolite of THC and thus, probably not the one they’re looking for in testing lab.
This is a different derivative from the first one you shared. This one is not one of the metabolites of HHC.
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You must be the type to read headlines as opposed to seeking truth. Have you read my response? https://future4200.com/t/covid-69-s-referral-comp-structure-conflict-background-commentary-reflection/158534
I don’t have that kind of money. And who would spend that kind of money anyways when it is not defensible? I’m hoping those smarter than I in this realm can point to a definitive answer without a trial. Clearly from the popularity of this thread I am not the only party interested.
That was your guy? That you had been in contact with for 9 months? I took care of it.
You and I have tried to meet in person for dinner in Dallas? I like you and wanted to meet. Not sure why you’re doubtful you would get to speak with me 1-on-1.
He is not an ex-employee. Far from it. Merely a deal partner. I wrote a detailed response linked above.
No phone conversation necessary. You were told you could sign the promised NDA on your exit and be reimbursed or just go without. You left the conversation. It would appear you wanted attention from your sensationalist stories more than you wanted reimbursement. Fine.
I don’t recall you replying in this thread before I began writing that reply.
People usually pay for most of the information that is on this forum and attracts us all here, no? Including the guidance I’ve shared? Is that not what makes this place great?
Fair. I’m looking for a certain answer, though. Not plausible deniability. I don’t think I’ve ever done anything to suggest otherwise. My business is what it is because customers know they can count on us, and we won’t do anything that would jeopardize that. That’s what a brand is.
I do not see myself as in the business of distributing ‘medicine’. The law is actually not that oppressive. ‘No health claims’ is one of maybe 2 regulations imposed on us. I have no problem abiding by the rule.
We all have our own reasons for consuming these cannabinoids. I’m here to make safe, effective product available and communicate known truths. That’s it.
OH HEY HE’S FINALLY RESPONDING AFTER A FEW DAYS, LET ME SUM UP THE RESPONSE BEFORE HE POSTS IT!
Go back to chadville. Your time here has run out.
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You replied within 10 seconds of me. That’s actually impressive. Or creepy.
Back to work.
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You mean duping idiots into believing you’re a
