A pallet is either a ton or half ton depending on the media. Everyone wants to try what @Photon_noir is teaching us so that volume would disappear really fast even in testing.
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I was pointing out that there are various forms of “opaline silica” and that some of them are hazardous. You know that in this industry people will google a term and buy the cheapest version of a product to save on costs. If that version isn’t what the correct media is then it’s worth knowing the risks, right?
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My question is why were you saying not to use it on IG before even talking to photon though?
You deleted the post but you basically said it was dangerous
Yet now you’re trying to supply everyone with it
Doesnt make sense
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I’ve stayed true to only my t41 for almost a year now, but I guess I could give this silica a try 
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to make money on it…LOL
He supplies absorbents and what people ask for. Sure the solvents arent that safe to huff either…he still sells them
happy kwanza!
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we’ve been using acetone washed ultra fine play sand. Wash it in warm acetone, Buchner and then vac oven at 200F overnight. Works as good as celite 545 is reusable if you wash it after use and doesn’t cost anything in comparison to how pricy celite 545 is when it’s not reusable. Also won’t slip past your filter paper if you don’t have a stainless micron filter yet. I usually load the sand under vacuum as well by pulling a vacuum on the bottom of the column when I load it, don’t pack it too hard or it will limit your flow rate.
Also it’s super useful for heating and dissolving shitty oil into it before you run it through CRC, I found it to be the easiest way to do it and when you’re done you just unbolt the portion containing your sand for washing and reuse later. I’ve seen absolutely no loss of yield to the sand, it’s not an effective adsorbent and I have not seen anything to suggest it holds on to anything when it’s blasted, always washes clean after the first time.
Just something I thought could be helpful I use it but If anyone has a reason not to use sand, I’d be all ears if it’s harmful or something.
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I talked to Photon and corrected my post. We have an OilDri account and can make it available. Did I piss you off or something?
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So basically you’ll spew misinformation to protect your absorbents till you find out something you cant stop is coming and then you join up?
Funny
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I just find it funny you deleted your post bashing this stuff
Atleast you admit you bashed it before you even talked to anyone about it xD
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I deleted the post after asking Photon if he wanted me to delete it after our conversation. Also, that SDS that had me spooked was for opaline silica from a different manufacturer…if you read the original post content you would remember that I said anything other than amorphous would be hazardous.
Some retailers are selling talc for PR, some are selling ground up quartz as filter aid. I was trying to avoid a mad dash for a new product based on google searches alone.
But I’m not gonna argue about supply chain with you. I apologize for taking an alarmist approach before talking to photon. Supplying this community with the right absorbents is kinda of what we do. I didnt intend on trying to steal the spotlight from this development…Photon has revolutionized this game from water clear distillate onwards and will always be the patron saint of cannabis oil processing.
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if you cant beat them…join them!!! 
i guess i missed that post…everyone is sooo serious today. I hope everyone had a great christmas!
and im just joking around…trying to lighten the mood…
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My whole point is you went off on a tangent with misinformation without even talking to anyone first. You didn’t even have the right silica or SDS
I corrected you and told you that PHOTON said this, then you went and talked to him after you realized WHO said all this.
I just find it funny you were so against it till you figured out photon told us about this, now you’re trying to sell it to the world.
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Ive spent the last 2 months arguing with people that think CRC is gonna kill people due to misrepresentations of how silicosis risk works. Guess I got wrapped up in making sure this wasn’t a vector. My bad.
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Just to throw my 2cents in:
First thing I did when I heard about opaline silica application was look for safety issues. And sure enough — there are some very serious issues regarding material quality. I posted the paper about crystaline silica and cristobalite — só if you supply people with opaline silica that also contains cristobalite there are some very serious potential problems. That still needs to be further investigated as to how, when and where the cristobalite would become a health risk but it’s the holidays and I don’t plan on using anything with cristobalite period. And there’s a published way to test that is inexpensive.
That being said let’s talk about carbon chemistry and people out to make money and being extremely careless and in my opinion an asshole.
—I got blown up with requests or my/our opinion ok using Celite after Vegas. Why? No clue. Some jackass. Point is, CARBON CHEMISTRY does not carry Celite or magnesol — because of the safety issues. Furthermore, the companies that own and mine and distribute those WILL NOT sell it to anyone whose end product is combustible or for inhalation. So ANYONE that is pushing or selling Celite is an asshole and just out to make some bucks. Period. Guess what happened to our cartridge and distillate market because of assholes like that???!! Ya, it’s fucking destroyed. All because some clown that wants to make money decided to cut carts for profits. See my point.
I’m not gonna call anyone out - so if you read this, do it yourself — become better, stop being selfish, good for you that you can make some money…but you’re immature selfish behavior is negligent and will impact all of us.
Caution is good. Let’s try to make healthy decisions.
Thank you to @Photon_noir for dropping a new gem. I think clearly scientific has been using this but I’m not sure. It’s a new solution to me anyways and perfect timing for a good general stand alone product for mass crc! 
@Shadownaught / Carbon Chemistry props to you guys for being safety focused. 
And @Kingofthekush420 always on point!!
I make shit loads of mistakes and if that sounded pompous I apologize the thing is that I will make mistakes and i like for people to call me on them and give me the opportunity to become better and grow. So that is why I’m saying to those that don’t even look at consequences you gotta step your game up or GTFO of the industry before you fuck it all up like honey cut did.
And stop selling Celite.
@DUMPSTERFIREOG nice post on the sand! Double check that there’s no acetone residuals in final product - pyrolysis of acetone is really bad.
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To date we’ve had no issues with residual acetone in our extracts, but you’re right it’s definitely something to watch for. Would it be better to increase the temps or length of duration in the oven?
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If you’re good then you’re good. There was a CBD dab company that was posting products in here and selling it while it had residual acetone.
I’ll dm you about the drying stuff - not ready yet but I’ll have something better shortly
Awesome thanks man
I think im the only one here that sells Celite 545 except BVV.
I source all my celite from:
If you think there is money in selling celite you would be suprised there is none. Im just providing it cause its used in our line of work. Sorry you feel this way! I just dont like seeing people use DE when they can use something that is washed and sorted by micron. 
Im glad you think this is about money all the time. It dont bother me one bit. I really dont know who else you can be referring to. LOL Hope you had a safe holiday!.
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There’s a lot people selling - my point was it’s not a big deal to find out something we do isn’t the ideal or right move—because we can change.
BUT ALSO, to point out that honey cut and the vape thing happened. It was real. And it did affect money and it did affect people’s lives and health etc.
so the main theme here is that especially those that affect the market and industry need to be cognizant of consequences and what we are doing.
Intent and consequence are not always in the same.
And let’s make a push to not have Celite be part of our industry. Before someone gets sued and filtration gets banned for all smokable products. Right?!
Same thing across the board. Some of the looking glass explode - like a lot. I don’t remember those guys sell them idk but anyways stuff like that. Let’s just not do that. Or fuck it, bring back the honey cut and let’s get really crazy out here — which one does everyone prefer?
That’s why I brought up the post Vegas demand for Celite.
I might have started to tell people to use it. I’m really glad I didn’t. Mistakes can happen but if you’re not at least paying attention or give a fuck or are willing to operate in that way then ya, I think that’s huge problem. Like a massive problem.
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are you someone’s troll alt account or just a troll? You post, but don’t contribute whatsoever
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