New to crc tech. Looking for tips

Welcome!

First off, have you read through this?

How big is your crc (once you are done using cups)
Are you using n2?
How are you staging your filtration and what micron are you filtering down to (once done with cups)?

I agree with @Idab916, b80 works great in its own (it’s my go to powder)

w1 is also good stuff (a little bit more expensive)

Edit: sorry, I saw you are using cups atm.

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No need for all those powders. B80 works fine on its own

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Also, interesting set up. What are the clamps above and below the “crc” that have the “springs”

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No n2. Just using a burp line during hot stage. No I haven’t read that article ill check it out. Im new to this forum and have been extracting since February. Thank you for coming off kind. i know how frustrating it is dealing with someone new.
Cups hold around 180g comfortably. 1½" v band(sorry if this is incorrect terminology. Im more versed in plumbing and car applications) and cylinder is like 2"
Cup has a micron paper. Unsure of micron. And have 3 micron screen gaskets on the way down. Passes the 2 bigger ones then crc column then last micron screen.

v band clamp I believe its called. In between each piece is a micron screen gasket.

Are those rated for pressure? Couldn’t find them in a quick search online (cooking dinner right now and not going to search further atm)

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Honestly I just started here in February so this what we are using. They are way faster to break down and reassemble.

Thanks for the additional photos.

I would switch to using all high pressure clamps (bolted ones). My gut tells me those aren’t rated for the pressure (could be wrong) that a real crc (once you really dive into it) will require.

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The plan is to get a busybee system and new lab soon. Just trying to figure out this crc stuff on this emotek. At least to a caliber where I can produce a desired effect each time without guesses.

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Nice! Also, if you are going to be dropping racks on a new setup check out iron fist and n.boler.

@SamuraiSam did an install/set-up recently on a iron fist (forgot which model) passive/active hybrid system that made me drool…

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I second this recommendation. No personal experience but nice looking gear

Edit: this is the kind of thing that makes me hot lol:

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That’s the one I was talking about!

Thank you, I didn’t know he shared it in that thread. I saw it on Instagram.

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It’s gorgeous isn’t it? I hate trying to do long runs of hard pipe like that. All it takes is like 10 degrees off on one bend to make it look like shit. Clearly, they nailed it.

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It looks like your bolts cranked all the way down? I would recommend getting some new bolts, nuts, washers and gaskets. In the tricks of trade thread, some members share the appropriate torques specs for each kind of gasket…

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Yes i made my boss aware. This machine has been running pretty much non stop for 2 and a half years lol.
My job also consists of maintenance for the lab. So I have new clamps on the way. Anyone have ideas on how I should be packing my media. Like %of each or even, also can media be run a 2nd or 3rd time?

How much material are you running? Also what quality?

4lbs a column and right now its decent quality scissor and floor trim.

If you get longer bolts for high pressure clamps you only have to take 1 bolt off ro remove clamp might not be as fast as those but there aafer clamps and its faster than taking both bolts off

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Those clamps are scary.

You definitely dont need all those powders.

I can help you if you want to get a bizzybee. There’s a few stock parts that help to be upgraded.

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:pray: thanks Sid! I hadn’t done more than 2 or 3 bends on a piece of tube before this job believe it or not. Couple feet long. Mistakes are exponential by the foot… I’ve learned to use a square to make sure 90’s are dead nuts on because they look like shit half a degree off even straight, and if you dog leg it coming out of a compound bend… fuck. Redo the whole thing. Ask me how I know. I had to buy 50ft additional tubing after fucking up a few pipes the first time, functionally OK but ugly. I like things very symmetrical. if you stand in the mirror spot on the opposite side system you should find nearly every valve angle and gauge angle matched and mirrored on opposite - save two minor unmirrored details due to the solvent exiting and entering the heat exchangers. There’s a great book called Tube Bending Simplified that complicated but does a great job of then simplifying what your doing by marking some additional lines and knowing where they’re going to line up.

This room had several 20ft sections I needed at maximum length, and something like five 10 footers that each had three bends on the three point saddle, a 90 degree bend on a 90 degree rotated plane, and another 90 degree on the end of the tube to go through the wall. And the things have to be within about a sixteenth of an inch for proper alignment and fit to the ports they meet.

With all the bends there’s no more elbows than on a standard ex 20/40/80 not ceiling-plumbed, so while there is more circuit length (unavoidable) the additional pressure drop has been minimized.

#itsallinthedetails

Thanks @SidViscous and @Hansel. Praise from my peers is among the highest compliments I receive. The client requested showroom quality and that’s what a former marine engineer and random technician of all trades can deliver :slight_smile:

We can put any features one would want, on any EX-10 or larger, on site. Hot gas loops, passive mode with “pump bypass” if you have adequate heating and chilling. I like adding lots of valves, dedicated function, to eliminate hose swapping. (I do not like wasting time, nor the possibility or potential for atmosphere to enter my system.)

We can even do even moderate welding tasks in the field. (Obviously you must take the empty, clean system out of the C1D1 control are for that)

The units usually really only need to come back for something like adding a jacket to a collection vessel or solvent tank on older systems, or for say a double jacket (vacuum insulation) on newer systems. Anything else I can think of myself or Carl can add to any system in the field. We’ve added a few neat things here and there. Auxiliary recovery (manifolded B pot essentially) systems +hot gas push are my favorite for upping recovery % on cold solvent runs. Big ass tube and shells for some of the real serious chillers…

We use only original quality parts of course, and get the original engineer of record to rectify the installation, and the machine if necessary, after any modifications since the machine left Iron Fist’s shop.

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