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Still looking for confirmation at YOU sent the sample in for that CoA.

Presumably this started as (~99%) CBD isolate.

only 92% of what thatCBD became has been accounted for.

The lab did not recognize that 8%. So using this COA to claim ā€œsee, nothing to worry aboutā€ is not actually supported.

No pesticides or heavy metals is a good start. 8% unidentified CBD derivatives may not be.

Assuming this is a COA you had generated, Asking for the chromatogram, and then enquiring about any unidentified peaks (ā€œnope, weā€™ve got no ideaā€¦thatā€™s why we didnā€™t identify itā€) is appropriate.

Not sure how far @kcalabs has gone down that particular rabbit hole, but using a lab that is used to teasing out what has gone on during a conversion is going to give you more peace of mind than using folks who still ID delta 10 as CBC

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CBD turned D8/D9 mix with iso-THC and unknowns then turned acetate via esterification? Probably iso-THC acetates present, but those would coelute with D8 acetate and D9 acetate on RP-HPLC, so the rest is probably other unknown acetates converted from unknowns we see in isomerized material.

Happy to point out the consistent unknowns we see on a chromatogram.

TLDR: unknowns

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Look I just used Google and purchased from one of the top 3 vendors. If I had an excellent source or my own lab I would have all the perfect criteria but I donā€™t and Iā€™m not. So here I am on future 4200 . I know why Iā€™m here but Iā€™m not just going to dive right into business and donā€™t know what or whoā€™s real here. Iā€™m sure everyone who has negatively criticized this post has swit that can acquire the purest experiment ingredients with perfect coaā€™s and Iā€™m glad you commented very nice to meet you.

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So youā€™re saying thatā€™s NOT your CoA?
Just what came with your product?

ā€¦and you donā€™t know who to trust?!?

@kcalabs is a great place to start your due diligence.

If you donā€™t understand their response, ask for clarification, or better yet send them your samples to verify that the vendor send what the claimed/meant to

You think this is about giving you a hard time?

Itā€™s about making clear the nature of the beast.

Be that the legality of your business plan or the morality of taking your vendors CoA at face value.

Youā€™re new to the game. We read that. The responses youā€™ve received have all been things you should know before stepping in.

Youā€™re free to disagree.
But donā€™t claim you didnā€™t ask.

New to the cannabinoid game you knowā€¦ the science of it ā€œā€ my mother was making money off this shit when I was in her stomach. Yea Itā€™s a coa the company sent.

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They need a chess app where forum members can play chess against one another mid commentary

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ā€¦and you donā€™t know who to trust.

So get your ownā€¦

I suggest you use @kcalabs

There are certainly others that understand the problem, but most cannabis/hemp labs are more interested in your money than actually helping you understand your product. You can pay folks not to notice the D9.

I know better than to throw ā€œmixed unknown isomersā€ at a receptor, but that came with the PhD in molecular biology.

Nobody said they expected you to know that.

Still means we need to do our damndest to get that across to you.

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Issameā€¦I am just trying to warn you a bit about the THCP.
I think the THCP that you buy comes diluted with something. Can you buy it pure state?
And I am talking about vaping that stuff up pureā€¦so that you personally become familiar with the full agonist effectā€¦personally and psychologically before deciding to sell it or market it to othersā€¦.
Taking the THC.acetate is not thcpā€¦nor is taking thcp mixed with other cannabinoids that partially block the receptor.
It does not seem like you have ever toked pure THCP.
Post a COA of the THCP material you have bought and how the sample was prepared.
You posted a COA of the d8thc acetate. I
???

Just not recommending this thought.

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I have the paperwork somewhere I just didnā€™t keep up with it. but your speaking to somebody that has ate 450 ug of cid and been to the other side dmt many many times , so I have quite the mind things just donā€™t effect me like some others. Maybe YOUR thcp was wrong and contaminated with radioactive poop??

Tell me what acid and DMT have to do with full agonism of the CB1 receptor.

Next you will tell us you can drive a car after hitting up the Salvia pipe.

Here is a little trick to the DMT pipe as wellā€¦smoke enough that you can not hold and light the pipe further. Have your buddy reload the pipe stick it in your mouth and relight it.
All you have to do is suck that last hit in. You do that with DMT and you will be alright in about
1/2 hour.
You do that with THCP you will be lucky to surviveā€¦and if you do survive, you wonā€™t be right for a week.

If I were you Iā€™d stick to the kappa opioid and 5HT-2a/5a receptors.

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I know someone who did smth roughly similar with JWH-18 before we learned all the ā€œwonderfulā€ new synthetic noids were full agonists back in '11 or '12 when u could buy all that shit on the clearnet (which soon after became available in headshops and gas stations). In his case, there was a creeper effect for some reason and it didnā€™t fully kick in until he got in his car and drove a bit before losing consciousness.

Idk if it was the accident or the JWH but he certainly was not ok for weeks.

(I say similar bcuz they were so potent, like microgram potency, that simply hitting a few mg at once accomplished what you described)

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There seems to be a delayed onsetā€¦some unknown pharmacodynamic aspect.
The delayed onset is reported to be accompanied by some vasovagal action that puts you on the floor.
Something that is rarely seen with THC. This info is from the Edgewood studies.

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For those who have not heard of those experiments: Edgewood Arsenal human experiments - Wikipedia

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Iā€™m just saying Iā€™ll be ok my friend I appreciate the concern though. Look Iā€™ve made a living off of damn near all of this shit and Iā€™ve done a lot of time for it. Iā€™m just trying to networK. Fentanyl has taken over everything where Iā€™m at. Blow, x even Mary j. Iā€™ve even seen beloved cbd isolate with a smidgen. Everyone I fucked with has jumped on this cheap death wagon so Iā€™ve cut ties. Thereā€™s no honor in this game anymore where Iā€™m at so Iā€™m expanding and some of you guys seem to know some shit.

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Ah, but itā€™s not YOU weā€™re concerned aboutā€¦

Youā€™re not suggesting adulterating flowers for your personal use. Youā€™re suggesting adulterating then selling.

Not going to explore the legality of the various adulterants youā€™re suggesting, except to point out that most THCP will be synthetic, not ā€œhemp derivedā€, so might be more problematic from a legal standpoint that legit flower (grow it!!) or d9 sprayed hemp.

From a toxicity standpoint, there IS apparently clean D8 out in the wild, and that would be your ā€œsafestā€ ā€œhemp derivedā€ adulterant.

Lots of folks running with that ball.

Distinguish yourself from the crowd and run real weed?!?

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