That was like those affinity guys that came here. Their business plan was such a scam. They got shot down immediately.
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Are unicorns real? Have you seen Bigfoot? Is the chupacabra eating your live stock? I mean while we are having theoretical conversation with little to no factual info…
I was considering going to his lab and doing the head to head contest but I’d rather not go there and give him a free bho consult.
OP if you wanna do the contest submit your oil to the glg cup for 420. Then we can all keep our tek secret.
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What? Water is def a chemical. Tf u smoking. All credibility lost imo
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That comment jumped off the page at me too man. 2 hours tops is the longest I have ever had ANYTHING last. 4 plus hours?? Nah
I love the showdown concept!!
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Not to continue the beating but yo just clarify…Yes, we all know water is a chemical and it can be used as s solvent. It is not dangerous to consume on its own or when its a vapor.
That comment was taken out of context and as I stated I will post more later.
By the way Apoth I looked at your set up and you probably could give a BHO lesson. Nice set up.
My oil can be described as a crude/rosin and for those who think they know it all I feel bad for you since this industry is in its infancy. We are just trying to think out of the box and are very happy where we are at but we definitely are not talking apples for apples.
Again…I appreciate everybody who gave me real input.
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Is it a limonene honey oil?
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Based on your pics its crude. You can call it rosin but its dark as shit. You say your using a chemical. Its. NOT. Rosin. period.
So your saying you use a solvent, it’s just not a chemical based solvent?
AKA no alcohol, hydrocarbon, C02, etc. essentially nothing synthetic or anything that humans do not already ingest on a regular diet/daily basis?
Examples of this would be water, naturally occurring terpenes, olive oil, things like that?
All though at a certain point even terpenes would be considered a chemical. Like limonene is a terpene and a chemical industrial strength floor cleaner.
So it definitely sounds like your splitting hairs a bit with your claim.
Not using a chemical while still using a solvent. If we Arnt talking about water that list is very very small
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Hit the nail dead on the head. Couldnt have said it better
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Very well stated Siosis and good try on your guess Apoth but my machine is not on the market but I do like your trying to figure it out. Im going to send you an NDA if your interested in talking the science. I would have my bio-chemist on the line with us who has 2 patents, one in plant extraction and one in filtration. I am the CEO and run the business but he can cary the conversation better and not make comments that set a person up for ridicule. I really am just trying to see if there is s market for this “Unicorn” oil. Just general questions not trying to sell it…yet.
No reason to over-analyze this thread.
Thank you for your input Tweedledew, even though sharp at times you were very helpful. By the way, yes we have had our oil tested in a smoking laboratory where we had carbonyl levels measured in micrograms per puff block. We completely understand the importance For the proper testing because products that are safe when being applied topically or ingested can become carcinogenic’s when heated. It was brought up to 230 C.
The main dangers we were looking for were acetaldehyde, acrolein, and formaldehyde.
More testing is needed because the last thing we want to do is introduce something dangerous and is why I am not looking to sell. We have been compiling massive amounts of data so we can be ready and this thread was for information and not to sell it. I will post it for sale when its ready and at that time I will be verified.
THANKS AGAIN!
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Just really consider your patent, to borrow a quote, " there is nothing new under the sun." If anyone finds “prior art” your patent is worthless. For all the people who’ve shown up at this website, I can’t remember one that was actually original. And lastly this is an open source community. Even if you’re right, half the people here will reverse engineer the idea and open source it. If you want to talk here, you need to share more facts to be taken seriously. Plant extraction patents meant something before cannabis extractions began in mass. Now it’s a totally different landscape.
Edit: that quote is from the Bible Google tells me.
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have you had success with this extraction method to directly crystallize thca/cbda?
if the answer is no it cannot compete with our best friends c3h8 and c4h10
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My big problem is you’d be crazy to smoke something with some unknown extraction solvent that won’t tell you what it is. Especially after recent vape illnesses.
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Yeah, if I don’t know how it was extracted, I ain’t touching it with a ten foot pole. Secrets of that sort don’t fly here.
@NNI if it’s such a unique, patentable idea (since you’re already submitted your patent, right?) you can spill the beans.
Or better yet, can’t you just tell us your application number, then we can see for ourselves what tf it is.
You can keep trying to obfuscate things, or actually say something. As you can see the vast majority of people here are calling shenanigans.
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I am a biochemist who has been making RSO for 10 years with many, many different solvents, techniques, nuances, and purification steps. I have NEVER been able to create a better smoke than a good rosin or BHO. I have made batches with 30% Cannabinoids and batches with 90+% Cannabinoids. I have gotten the best reviews (from those who dab or smoke my products) when I do a LLE with ethanol, isopropyl, pure water, and salt water along with pH balancing. This whole process takes quite some time and doesn’t compare at all to the ease of a butane extraction or rosin press.
I’d like to hear, like everyone else here, something unique from you that will make us want to help you.
What is a “very” full spectrum? FULL is full. It can’t be “more full”.
Are you sure you’re not just creating a terp sauce? At 30% Cannabinoids, but full spectrum, you would likely have A LOT of terpenes and that would make for a “delightful” smoke but not a potent one.
If you do have a high terpene profile, then your base solvent is probably just water. Side note: H20 = chemical. I know 4 different groups trying to patent water extraction so good luck with the patent.
If this process is as simple as you say, then the marketability would be VERY short lived. Your patent won’t stand strong if someone can make a propriety remix blend by adding 10% ethanol. The best advice I can give you is to master your machine’s build and then make machine sales your business; with a little tolling on the side.
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Well said 
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Twist the extraction solvent ite’s actually hair grease carefully harvested from an army of wook’s I mean they have a lot of room in California City for a lot of wooks right
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