Mixing your own nutrients

Tacoed a few leaves going full strength. Im not sure if you explained exatly what fulvic/humic acids do? Some guys might need to back off of the ferts when adding it. @AgTonik

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Youā€™re absolutely right, @BG305 The fulvic acid allows better nutrient absorption through chelation and revs up the plant metabolism with other organic acids like Gallic acid. 90% is a good place to roll your base back to if you are a straight salt guy.

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I really like the Haifa CalPrime product. Itā€™s more concentrated and I seem to have an easier time getting it to dissolve. I use Yara for MKP and one of their sub-brands Fe-HBED

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As I recall, the calcium % was better for my DIY rolled nutes too.

GH has a nice Cal Nit product with micros included.

We had decent luck with GH until we started mixing from scratch but theyā€™re a bit $$$. Also I much prefer having everything individual. Makes it easier to tweak even if it means having to measure out 20 something components each time we make a batch up.

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The productā€™s N-P-K numbers reflect each nutrientā€™s percentage by weight seeing as these powders are probably made in the same or almost identical fertilizer plant ( i dont know exact makeup of HGV nitrogen for example (ammonium nitrate, urea nitrogen, etc) it would actually appear as though Jacks makes more ā€œgallons of feedā€ solution per lb of powder.

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:man_shrugging:t2: Depends on how you use it. 4g of growth or Flowering /2.5g of base should put you in the 1200ppm range using RO. Break out your Texas instrument you said cost was $10 a # on the HGV.

I mix 125 #'s into a 55 gallon drum and feed thru dosers.

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@AgTonik

Zeolite analysisā€¦

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Humic and fulvic acid make everything you have in your soil that is marginally available into very available. If your soil is not balanced, making everything more available is not a great idea. Often we see sodium get kicked loose, more potassium, etcā€¦ and if these elements were already high in comparison to Calcium, making a lot more potassium and sodium available will have in many cases some negative consequences.

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Exactly

They still make about an equal amount of finished nutrient feed liquid. I feed Jackā€™s 3-2-1 at about 1.6ec during their hungriest part of flower or 800ppm 6 times a day in my dtw Coco system. I could probably feed as high as 1200ppm like you do with hgv but I find itā€™s not necessary with jacks. I like to give them just the right amount just past the point of showing absolutely no deficiencies. This point is 1.6 EC so it appears that jacks/calcinit/epsom is not only far cheaper but also makes 50% more mixed liquid since I only have to feed it at 1.6 EC.

@BG305 nothing against you buddy and Iā€™m sure you have some sweet setups. Iā€™m merely defending my pov now since it was mentioned that my mentality might not be in tune with producing the highest of quality. In fact the opposite is true and I simultaneously do not like nutrient companies or anyone in this business green taxing shit because itā€™s targeted towards cannabis.

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Hey Ford beat Ferrari at Le mans. We all use what nutriens work for us. This is a commercial grow so i need the most inexpensive ferts that produce the highest yield/quality flowers.

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Iā€™m not a fan of all these chemicals and salts. I like to make everything from scratch. You can basically extract natural and organic components into a solluable composition that the plants like. You can also make organic high n and organic high pk without over feeding.

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Now you dont eat salt?

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The most successful people that i know all use the nutrient line canna . It might be expensive but they produce the most flower per square foot . It takes them 5 square feet to produce a pound of flower indoors and It takes them 8 square feet in a light dep . I have seen many grows and i have never met anyone else capable of producing the yields they can . In a 30Ɨ100 greenhouse they pull 300+ pounds of indoor quality flower that tests cat 3 and 27%+ thc . All my other friends do not even believe it is possible they call bullshit . I personally have seen it with my own eyes so i know its real . I just up my level of standard and set my goals higher as well as following their SOPs now . Canna is 90% organic with a touch of minerals ( in my book minerals are organic ) perfected by master Dutch growers . Fun fact the Dutch created the sea of green style grow that we have all come to know and love ( IMO the best grow style to date )

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Thatā€™s the average yield among the top growers. Do you think Canna sources its nutrients in the form they sell it to you in or do you think th e y mix in salts to water?

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They do a plant ferment then add trace minerals no salts involved . This is why i would use them because i make plant ferments in the form of compost teas then add trace minerals . I just donā€™t have a scientifically formulated line made specifically for growing cannabis i guess where canna is lab tested ect in a perfect formula everytime . So for me and all my comercial scale friends its worth the extra money . I have friends running such large operations they pay 10k a month in just water and nutes .

I have a set of canna and bio canna nutes, as well as house and garden, general organic, jacks and technalora. Iā€™ve been meaning to have a bake off.

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@blackie I personally would stay away from general organics they have molybdenum in their list of ingredients and fertilizer % it is a trace amount but it is in their grow and bloom and will concentrate in your flower. Also maybe its just me but any flower i smoke grown with salts is harsh half way through the joint and tastes like Iā€™m sucking on a nickel . Everyone who smokes my organic flower says it is much smoother and does not get this effect

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