yea i know ya not him but would be fuckn dope as shit if ya were LOL! even Hamilton Morris hasnt got a chat with Hobart yet
Just called the # he gave me (his mom’s) in '02 when we parted ways at Bastrop and it’s no longer a good number for him.
Might have been 03…he’s one hellova chess player btw
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The lost was inevitable, but i am on the safe place to rol now.
The a/b metod for the pills dont work… i base the water to ph 12 and the ether dont pull nothing… i dont do a Marquis test on that pills and maybe there is not MD in that shity pills?
Then i add a exces of Naoh (a lot) and a kind of red sticky oil come out, but the ether dont pick up, dont disolve.
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Let’s start with the obvious question- what made you think it’s MDMA?
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Also are you sure the ether didn’t pull anything? If so why are you sure?
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Your question is for the pills? I dont know…sadly i forgot to do the reagent marquis for see if ay last is something in the MD-family. 
Because i put in the roto and evap the ether, and there was something… but in the mg scale…maybe is something …but i dont have analytical to do, there is not what i espect so i discart.
How did you extract the pills to begin with?
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Personally I would just use hot water and evaporate and then add basic water and pull with xylene or toluene, as a guess
Why hot water?
I make powder, wash the powder with acetone ( i try to remove the colorant here but was inefective, then wash with Ether for the same reasson and nothing change. Then dry and disolve in water, filter the “vehicle”… and then base to Ph 12
If the acetone isn’t dry it can steal alkaloids!
And hot water is quick, it takes forever even for crystals to dissolve if water isn’t hot
But I’ve never done an a/b on mdma!
The acetone was dry and distill, and was very litlle washes. The powder stay in water for 2 days before the base so time to disolve have
If you are starting from a pill that contains MDMA I would crush it into powder then dissolve it in room temperature water (MDMA hydrochloride is highly soluble in water and the impurities you may expect are not so much as) then filter the water turn your solution into a strong base while vigorously stirring, let the solution sit for a short while and check if you see an oil phase on top of the water (if it’s just a few milligrams it will be hard to see) which will give you your first indication. Afterwards extract with a solvent that is “not likely” to contain water (honestly I would stay away from acetone completely unless you are washing the DRY HCL crystals with what you know to be dry acetone). Afterwards just bubble some hydrogen chloride gas through it
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Yeaa was a lot of pills and the base was doing with a 36% Naoh solution to a ph of 12 with a digital ph, not oil Only with a enormus aumont of base (an the ph meter here collaps and dont read well… a red sticky oil comes out and that shit dont disolve in the Organic phase…pretty weird.
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Okay so we’re going back to the question what makes you think those pills were MDMA?
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I dont know… Is for this that i want to try… for see…and TRY to pull out MD if they have something and for science fun.
What is the pH of the water extract before you do anything to it
PH at 5.
Maybe i dont give a proper time to separate de oil when base the solution and then apply the excces of Naoh fk the thing?
The fact the water is at pH 5 tends to indicate that you do have some product in there (fillers/binders used for making pills are usually pretty close to neutral pH) . If you just want to play around go ahead and turn your water extract into a strong base while stirring for a few minutes then extract your water with an “appropriate” solvent of your choice regardless whether you see any oil either evaporate your solvent to see if you have any oil left in your hands or go ahead and bubble hydrogen chloride gas through your solvent extract ( do not get disparaged if you do not see white precipitates appear immediately upon bubbling the gas through your solvent, it may take a bit of bubbling before they start appearing). It is my understanding the pills in Europe are usually between 70 to 90 mg and so if you do this with 10 pills you should expect between 700 to 900 mg if it is what it’s supposed to be.
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