options are “paper clip”, field wired M12 4-pin male, wait for OEM…and possibly “don’t worry about it”. with an appropriate liquid (high smoke point oil?) in your boiling flask you should be able to bring the mantle online without the missing plug.
It’s the first spd I’ve ever purchased I’ve always used someone else’s which was always dialed in ,so I’ll give this one a few more tries by boiling water in the flask and see if I can get the mantle all the way up to my set point…if my set point is 300 itll only climb to 200 the die off …that’s my real issue But the supplier keeps telling me it’s due to me not having that “sensor”…Hence I’m hear to call his bullshit .
I know that’s what the OEM is telling you. I’m not certain they are wrong. the only magic in the plug itself is the two pairs mentioned above.
when you train a PID (autotune, thread linked above), it figures out how hard your processes is to heat or cool, and then does math based on how far it is from where you asked it to be…and tries to hit that point without overshooting.
the initial “burn-in” on a new mantle doesn’t seem like it should be any different, unless the OEM suggest doing it without a boiling flask 1/2 full of liquid. other than there may be smoke. unfortunately I’m not actually certain on that point. just mostly.
if @midsfactory actually is the plug plug, you’re in business. if one or other of you has a multi-meter and can let us know which pins are being connected, we can turn “magic” into science
The oem did say do burn in without boiling flask and plug inserted ,instead I chose to go the opposite route and use the probe because the plug wasn’t available and still csnt wait on it to come from chickity china the chinese chicken…At one point the mantle did shoot over my 300 set point when I was using water but now its failing got replicate the process.Yes theres a manual all 2 pages in chinese ,hes sending me the translated version alongside the plug .
your alternate procedure would seem like the correct response.
I don’t understand how a probe in water would exceed 300f under your conditions. I personally would not ask the mantle to try performing that trick…on the off chance that it might succeed
edit: is it reading oC or oF? I find it so strange that so many of the cheap mantles only read oF.
I did the same thing here, didnt recieve a jumper plug (Thanks @Terry_Manager) so burn it in on 380C for 5min witj the prope laying on table.
Have i fucked up the PID now? Do i need the jumper plug now still and when do i need it/application.
Its reading room temp with prope in and no heat on.
Stupid… and the mantle is one of those things that give fear of the process due to possible overshooting for a newbie. not burning it in correctly definitely didnt help the nerves
should i put in a open flask with water’n prope in to see how accurate PID is now?
Was pressed for time. And interface insists on at least 5 characters
Olive oil or crude would be better. So you could aim at 150C rather than 95
Which is what it should do…
I would have burned it in with the probe sitting in the mantle not on the bench, but if it didn’t catch fire, and still warms up when you ask it to, you should just need to train it on your process (auto-tune).
hehe those things easily goes bye me when im in europe with shippin and all, often just mad expensive to ship, severale times already on this site been offered goodwill/somethin in US but just feel gets complicatle easy n also maybe even offered dont want to be of troubles lol.
Definitely some things with these mantles i have hard time putting 2 n 2 together with PID and how i defeat it aha i use the search bar alot, i understand the words but not the whole often for some while.
I need the auto tune explained and yes i read all your comments on it you being the PID info plug hehe.
is it this procedure according to USALabs manual on this model
If self adjustment is needed note that it reduces time to heat,
accuracy is improved when the mantle is in a different altitude or the
amount of liquid reaches above the edge of the mantle.
Only start self adjustment when the mantle is cool.
To start self adjustment hold the + heat key for 5 seconds until “Lc”
is displayed. Change the value to “27” then press “Heat” Change the
value from “0” to “1” Press “Heat” again to return to the main menu.
When the volume of liquid is large or the viscosity is high increase
the stirrer speed.