Liquid diamonds is just distillate, change my mind

Absolutely. Taste is on the individual level. Some like coffee black and bitter. I just hope people arent taking botanicals and thinking putting that in food will make it better.

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My god, I really hope not. :face_vomiting:

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When we extract native cannabis terps for formulation we usually get a sample (~0.1ml) and warm it up on the back of your hand then give it a taste. The heat from your hand can vaporize the more volatile terps. We’ve found this method to be a better indicator of how the terpenes are going to taste in a cartridge then just smelling them bulked up in a container. To be clear I would never recommend doing this with botanical terpenes but as long as your extraction process and biomass is clean you should have no problem consuming trace amounts (basically the same amount you’d get in a single edible out of a batch formulated with live resin edibles) of cannabis derived terps.

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I’ve changed my mind?

what tech did you use to achieve melting it

what’s in the jar?

Heat it tech.

I’m trying understand this process, so I place jar into diamond miner, add 5-10psi of nitrogen. Place in heat at 120c.

Couple questions
I don’t have nitrogen I have co2 will that still work? If not are there alternatives or should I just go buy a bottle of gas?
My goal is to melt co2 thca without destroying any of its flavor/potency profile.

well THCa shouldn’t really have any flavor to preserve… is this live extract (with terps) or just pure THCa?

Ive already done a terpene run, so its mostly just wax. Im going straight from machine to cart and need a way to melt the waxes down without destroying it.

alright now I’m confused…
it’s wax? like, crumbly wax? do you have a picture of what you’re trying to put in carts?

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in general, you would put your extract in a sealed vessel that can withstand at least 40-50psi (also depends on how much oil you are working with. small batches will produce less pressure).
If there are terps, you should pull a vacuum on the vessel, then backfill 5-10psi of nitrogen, heat to about 180-200F. How long it needs to be heated depends on batch size. And no, CO2 is not a good alternative for nitrogen.
If there are no terps to preserve, just pull a vac and then decarb (heat to 180-200F). no need to backfill with Nitrogen

The nitrogen only gets added to help keep terpenes from boiling out of the oil while it is heated.

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Awesome thank you! Ill keep you updated

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If the oil you are using is super waxy though, it may not go so well. just so you know.

Yeah @JakeyJake if you have a THCA rich crude oil you are pulling out of a CO2 machine with lots of wax and lipid content in it, you can’t just decarb it and throw it in a pen and have it work properly, you will still get it clumping and clogging from the lipid/wax content. Even if the lipids and waxes “melt” while you are decarbing, they will precipitate back out when it cools down and cloud up the mixture, and increasing the viscosity (making it function more poorly in cart hardware).

Do you know what winterization is? Are you winterizing your CO2 crude before decarbing and reintroducing terpenes?

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It’s not horrible for co2. I come from bho realm so it’s taking a little practice to get it down. With a few custom additions and changes to the SOP I’ve gotten it to this point.

The goal is from machine to cart no winterization.

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What’s the melting / decarb temp of thca isolate I’ve got some now I’ll run a side by side test

Literally laughing out loud lololol

So that’s what I would consider very standard CO2 crude “wax” product. I can see very easily from the picture that it is chock full of lipids, fats, and other undesirable compounds that will NOT taste good when vaporized and inhaled. Check some of my older posts about terps/CO2 extraction and you will get an idea of what it should look like coming out of the machine if you want to do it with no winterization.

You can get away with higher lipid content in a cartridge if the terpene content is high enough to keep everything nicely dissolved and fluid, but you do run the risk of over time the material drying out and chunking up in the cart. Ideally you want to be pulling multiple separate fractions out of your extraction run using different sets of parameters on the same material load. If you run conditions that allow you to get “cart ready” material straight out of the collection cup you will leave behind a ton of cannabinoids in the material and have a low yield. I averaged 5-8% yields into my “HTFSE” fraction, which you can take and mechanically separate any residual water/hydrosol from. To get the remaining 5-10% yield out of the material I’d then crank up to the harshest run conditions possible to strip the leftover cannabinoids and take that material to polish up into winterized CO2 oil or distillate.

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