I ran into a company called Lineage at Bizcon. They had a washer that they called the Bluhm, kinda similar to the osprey, but it uses belts on the outside to turn the cylinder and create a vortex, rather than an impeller on the inside, which they claim harms those precious heads.
Also uses flat screens that the water passes through, as opposed to bags, before the water is collected and recirculated. the screens slide in and out easily. seemed like a pretty neat concept. looked a little easier to handle/deal with than all those bags.
anyone ever seen this thing in action? anyone know someone who is running one? they are outta Canada and I had never even heard of them before. Trying to decide between their set up or the low-temp set up.
Wouldnt take that thing into my lab if they paid me, good luck getting the hash off those trays. The shear rating by moving that entire cylinder is gonna be insane.
I got a chance to talk with them about their unit and here are my take aways:
Ergonomic design for the entire unit, really considering the physical labor of the extractor team
Allows up to seven individual micron screens to be used in the tray inserts just above the collection vessel (recommended to have clean screens to use and swap in and out as needed for little to no time down on the unit between runs)
Recirculating pump, pressurized water sprayer, and other key features integrated into the seimens electronic unit make for desirable auto settings and your unique preferences
The team was consisting of a fabricator (all done in house in Canada), welder, and a hash washing expert from what i was told. Overall im really impressed but would love to hear from anyone who has an existing unit. My concern is about the weight of the micron screens as they are all metal, fairly heavy, and would be a pain to flip in theory (but who knows). Overall seems like a great priced option for the automation theyāre offering.
why would it be any harder to get hash off these screens vs. bagsā¦?
and the dumpable drum would sure beat the hell out of scooping the biomass out. of course thereās a risk of shear, but you could say that about pretty much anything thatās made of stainless and has moveable parts.
seems like a lot of hate for never running their machine before lol.
I can confirm this. I talked to these guys yesterday. Saw their shop where they fab em. CEO is definitely a hash maker. Heās run trash cans, bubble magics, the osprey, etc. he knows his shit.
The only main differences I noticed between this and the osprey were that this uses a belt on the outside of the drum to spin it, instead of an impeller/propeller/overhead mixer, it has aa dumpable drum and uses the screens instead of bagsā¦ and there is no jacketed model.
They have studies on ruptured head % vs. other washers, burn rates on the full melt from this machineā¦ They sound pretty legit to me. Or at least they play the part well.
They invited me up there to do a couple runs in a licensed facility that runs their machine (the only one in the legal market so far, itās a very new machine). He said they have 6-7 in the traditional market. if I make it up there, Iāll let yāall know how it goes!
This seems like a glorified washing machine with drain rerouted to some converted baking pans as āscreensā.
Rotating the entire machine itself seems dangerous, seems like it would create heat, seems like it would lead to quite the loss of yieldā¦and we havenāt even gotten to the screens yet.
That silk like material will not be fun to clean, or collect from,and especially if there is any heat being generated from the machine spinning above it. Looks like a great place for heat to be trapped. Oh and Iām sure that you will have to purchase THERE specific filters, or cut up some washing bags lol.
Oh and removing of spent material looks like hell, especially if that top part doesnāt come off for more access. That dude semi struggled with it being empty, letās get some wet biomass in there and see what happens.
Youād have to have two sets of all of them. One set for being used and one set drying after an isopropyl wash after just being used.
Other than that I think all metal screens might be a hassle. Also what kind of metal? Thereās always a chance of leeching when it comes to metal but who are we kidding, nylon too.
yeah, weāll see whatās up with the screens whenever I get a demo. I agree they could be a nightmare, but I also think itās possible they end up being easier to work with than bags. I mean letās be honest, bags are kinda a pain in the ass. always have been. Iām hopeful these could be a better solution. yet to be seen though.
enough to heat up THAT much ice water even a degree though?
agreed. they said it was CIP but idk how effective that will be. looks like that cleaning those could be a pain. bags have the edge in that departmentā¦ much easier to clean
