Lab Explosion/Fire in KY Last Week

Mmm well I’ve seen most QMS just get ignored because they were written by hand waving corporate bullshitters for the sake of appearance “on paper” and to appease regulators. This is across cannabis and pharma both. Maybe over there in Germany or wherever things are different. But in the old US of A we have quality managers who have no idea wtf is going on at the level of production yet they will write up a whole bunch of “quality management” systems/logs/sops that have no application to any real work being done. And yeah they are never used and ignored and rolleyes everywhere when you mention “quality”.

I sure do wish this was different, it would be a treat to have real application of QMS at a job. Again, not just cannabis… Pharma is pretty much all fucked up too. But the pharma folks are better at covering ass for sure.

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Managing a lab at scale (hell managing anything at scale) is a very difficult process. In an ideal world, you have a system of hierarchy which disseminates information down through the ranks and makes it more directly applicable to the specific tasks of the following rank. For example, the C-suite and director level writes a QMS with a very open-ended, high level vision for quality management within the organization. The VPs and GMs then translate that into high level plans for their specific locations/departments. The department managers/supervisors then translate that into specific plans and directives for the team leads. The team leads give direct instruction and training to the folks on the ground.

As you can see, this big game of telephone has many opportunities for a breakdown in communication and also makes a very big assumption that the person responsible at each step is capable of effectively doing that job. Also, there is the fact that it takes a significant amount of time and effort for this process to take place, and (especially in new industries) often the higher-ups are making changes to the QMS faster than it’s able to be effectively implemented. Despite these challenges, this does not mean that the effective implementation of a QMS isn’t still a valuable initiative worth working toward.

“Be the change you want to see in the world” -Not Ghandi

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Really good video from a lawyer explaining a lab explosion scenario

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Thank you buddy for the very pessimistic response on a community based forum… why even respond with a comment like “google it”?

Looking to peers to hear personal feedback is a legitimate question. No need to be an ass. Good day sir

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first the food processing plants, now this…

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:joy: Wanna spoon to go with that 'good-day-sir?

This channel (where the original video is from) is a great resource and has a lot of applicable lessons for our industry.

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He uses a lot of the same internet shorthand garbage to make fun of people that my daughter uses when she plays Roblox. It’s like writing a death threat in crayon.

Highly effective and confusing at the same time?

I watch all the USCSB vids like my GF watches movies on the channel Lifetime :rofl: We have a deal where if she wants to watch anything on Lifetime and me be present, she has to watch two USCSB episodes with me. Now im out of USCSB episodes (is it bad to wish for more?) so now were onto the Canadian version.

For real tho, the level of detail in these USCSB recreations of accidents is unparalleled - extremely well made - even down to the coffee stains on a logbook page.

One theme I notice is how important operations management+communications are as well as overall curation of safety culture- seems to be a common failure with most of the accidents - someone didnt communicate something important and someone dies.

My lab partner and I have been toying around with the idea of making some vids that demonstrate some of the accidents that can happen in our industry, particular working with hydrocarbons.
-Vacuum oven fires and how to stop them are first on our list.

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You mean like Covid? :sob: