If i remember correctly that is celite or de
Happy birthday, bruv. Glad you made it safely.
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@Dred_pirate I do want to formally apologize, you were right. I was remembering the heat needed to make cannabinoids mobile in butane then ethanol is theoretically less as proof that we would not see a reduction in yield. Even with a small reduction in yield is worth while to make consistent stabld products that will not sugar, to me. Hence why I will be trying this. All in the name of R&D
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Care to quote the post that has all of that info laid out 
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Is this the quote you were looking for?
Happy to have you back @Killa12345
Didnt know it was your bday, but happy birthday!
Glad you had a safe trip!
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i guess that is what he was looking for.
Lets make this a bit clearer!!!
So we were running spools with between 4.5-6lbs each run.
STARTING FROM THE BOTTOM:
we used an unweighed amount of DE but Celite 545 is preferred due to the size of the mesh DE is. We did not weigh the DE because the cost was 50# for $10. What we did do was fill the whole bottom filter plate with DE. We hand packed this with a wooded Cut out @bg305 made.
On top of the DE. we used 350g of t5 packed in a 4x4" spool. This was also hand packed.
On top of the T5 in the same 4x4" spool we added 150g of Silica Gel 60. this was also hand packed as well.
Thats it. Not one run with the combos above came out yellow. all clear runs. We also tested this with several 1lb runs as well using the same DE bed, followed by 100g of T5 and 50g of Silica and got the same results.
3 powders only. Nearly perfect results everytime. Lets now move to removing the waxes.
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It seems in the edible oils they use a chemical process to remove fatty acids and such before and after the bleaching process, so perhaps its bound to be a seperate process,
Or using oil dri brand select, which is a silicate i believe,
Ive been having good results using a sleeved column packed with dry ice 10 minute soak then regular filtration hardly any fats when i winterize it… not 100% but pretty darn good it might be 100% using these medias as the filter
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We also saw no difference in using sub zero nitro pushed Solvent and warm pressure assisted solvent. Literally they both came out the same.
We also played with soak rates and found no color change with no soak, 10 and 20 min soak time all in a non jacketed spool. Not once did we add dry ice to the spools.
We also did not see any flow issues. I really couldnt believe how fast the solvent mixture moved threw the powders and the 3 micron filter paper. Especially warm butane. Its was a site to see when its really moving.
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Did you notice a return % increase from doing a longer soak?
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How much lipid and wax did you pull with the warm solvent, did you winterize and weigh for a comparison?
No we really didnt focus on yields or how much waxes and lipids were remaining.
We had a ton of problems up there that made this trip much more difficult than we imagined. As much of you know there was a lot of snow in the NW US.
The night we got there. The farm lost power and we had a small generator just barely enough to heat the house. The next day we got the massive generator running but had problems setting up the extractors due to a badly welded sight glass on an extractor lid i sold that didnt pass pressure testing. Yes i admit my faults but its already being replaced. This was a drop shipped parts which i didnt get to inspect. Then all the snow started melting and flooding everything. One full day was wasted running material which was pre-extracted thats someone said had 15% cannabinoids in the material…this is how we know it dont do anything for waxes cause we subzero extracted nothing but plant waxes and fats.
We eventually would get in a bunch of testing with ratios we found to work pretty much everytime. Nothing was perfect. It was a shit show most of the time. but we tightened up a few variables which should help the community. Really thank @BG305 for letting us do some testing up at his farm and @Dred_pirate for coming with me on this wild long and stressful trip most of the time. What dont kill us makes us stronger.
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Hotter yields more a tad bit more but more fats and lipids as well…i wouldnt recommend it if ur trying to bring older material back to life…only for the stuff that was coming out nice already
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We were extracting subzero at first with a nitro push but just wanted to see if warm gas could still take deceit flower material to clear. Im sure @bg305 can show off some more pics as i saw a video last night of more clear he was making.
Warm gas i think will yield more and if your going for shatter or crumble. Thats gonna help yield more but still get a clear extract. Its a pretty big deal to be able to run warm gas rather than subzero as we found warm gas faster than subzero gas nitro pushed.
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More that they have the same chemical formula, but not the same crystalline structure.
Silica is crystalline, it is basically quartz, sometimes transformed to cristobalite and/or trydimite by heating.
Celite is made from specific type of DE. It is mainly composed of Opal CT, which is a rather amorphous compound (i.e. not crystalline). It may contain also other accessory minerals such as different type of clays.
All these can be found as natural minerals.
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Juat spray the trim with some of this to make it clear
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I just wanna show how disguisting some of these filter beds were. This black cane from material. We didn’t use carbon at all. Look how gross this was.
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You guys were all smoking this in 2018…now we got better meds thanks to this thread
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Exactly. Look how nasty that shit it. Thank god im not gonna be smoking that shit this year.
I can just feel me getting healthier.
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For real, now let’s work on getting those waxes and lipids out in the lipid removal thread
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About to start my first try wit silica 60 then t5 in two separate 4” filter plates 8micron filter papers under each then a 5 micron mesh gasket. (Out of Celite) will try next time with it
Another thought tho. Anyone think using Celite or some absorbent at the top to be able to run undistilled gas? Would save time not distilling if one of these absorbent would catch the mystery oils
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