I'm starting to suspect that there is no such thing as CDT that actually smell like cannabis flower

If putting slabs in a vac oven decarbed them, we would not have shatter!

Yes, 5 days at 100f will probably lead to at least partial decarb. 24hrs at 95 does not.

This is why I’m asking about analytics. Shatter is predominantly THCa (92% is the best I recall hitting, it’s been a while).

HOW did you decarb?
What was your metric for completion?

Bromocresol green might be informative.

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Trick of the trade :grin: :+1:

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Clear Nation & Cannabis Refined are hands down the best real terpenes anyone will find being sold on the marketplace. Simple as that. Anyone who has tried them will agree.

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What termperature do you keep those terps at out of curiousity?

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I would think it’s as cold as he could get that fridge. I usually keep all my terps in the freezer

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Go try more terps noob

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i just went the mini fridge (half sized, not the dinky 6 can bullshi) route this year for my terps and ready made buckets but i been running it at like 60%. ill see how max chooches, thanks bud.

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as cold as possible. usually in the freezer then ones being used more often in the fridge.

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Have you called Erich, @PharmExOregon ? I assure you that no one here plants reviews. If anything, good reviews are extra hard to come by.

I hope you find what you’re looking for.

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Not to sound shilly but I’m gonna have to agree 100% (that those are good terps) and also throw betroit in there because those 3 companies have been killer quality.

Just recently got Fire OG from cannabis refined and whew, there’s absolutely no mistaking/questioning whether that stuff is CDTs. Glad there’s another contender out there!

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How does one best cleanup after spilled terps? Wipe, dilute with ethanol, wipe, repeat?

Does the smell ever go away? I’ve not had it happen, but I can only imagine. Be cool to have a special terpene spill kit: matches and a fire extinguisher.

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This works good for hard surfaces. Let’s here the suggestions for fabric spills!:joy:

I use bounce sheets inside of a cardboard tube

Giggled

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I bought a bunch of terps of many brands including qma and i dont like them either. I like flower. Im not dissing individual brands just saying terps dont carry over like that. I like chemdawg and c99

orange oil is stronger than terps. it goes away.

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Hi, my company recreates strains using all-natural botanicals and I would like to add some thoughts here.

All of us at the company love and consume live resin and CDTs, it’s what fuels our passion to create the best BDT blends, but I will be first to tell you that they are a ‘direct representation’ and not a perfect match (and we all know this already). But when I started this job I had really low expectations because I had been using BDTs and essential oil compounds for many years to much disappointment. I’m still here because it’s a 110+ year old flavor house that just happens to have thousands of terpenes and flavonoids on the shelf, and the difference in these blends gives me a ton of hope for where this industry is headed. (CDTs are in a similar boat on a similar ocean- about 1 out of every 100 is actually as delicious as they say they are).

Everything you see on the GC with your CDTs, we can get into the bottle with botanicals. But, nature is very hard to replicate, and our subjective brains make it even harder (like when someone says they want an ‘apple’ taste but there are about 5000 different varietals of apples in nature and the customer is most likely just talking about green apple. Meyer lemons vs regular lemons. Key limes vs regular limes. Your OG kush vs my OG kush vs literally any other OG kush. Etc…). People trying to agree on how good your CDT or your cannabis replica terpene is should be even harder, one would think.

Some folks who have a special CDT will add just one percent of it to a larger batch of our terpene blend custom ‘replica’ to be able to scale it up and use it for more projects. There are many other ways of enhancing the original flower terps that we have worked on in past projects (spraying subpar flower to go into pre-rolls, adding to shatter, etc).

Our goal as a supplier to cannabis folks is to build consistent and repeatable products. This helps build your customer base, build the brand, and to scale accurately since the CDTs are craft and small batch and ultimately hard to replicate.

Since we are consistently working with CDT farmers and processors in tandem, I can confirm that OP is right and there are about 300 AWFUL HDT/CDTs on the market, and for the price jump it’s just not a great look. I know of 2 total CDT processors making clean and repeatable no-heat CDTs, and I push them all day.

Our BDT blends really thrive for the folks who are making discreet flavored vapes and want to keep it all-natural and GMP. Both the live resin vapes and the flavored disty vapes sell at about the same rate nationally, and they belong on the same shelf together- not in competition with one another. Some companies worked so hard for their CDT and they love it so much that they leave all that money on the table and won’t even consider using BDTs. The flavored vapes are trending up so fast right now with new states going rec and an influx of mature, professional, and elderly consumers who need to medicate without stinking up the whole nursing home. Again, we do a TON of strain-specifics BDTs also because they are about 1/10 of the price, and scalable and repeatable. A lot of brands choose this route, and we are ALWAYS sure to manage expectations and have a conversation about creative interpretation, CDTs vs BDTs, etc.

If you haven’t tried our BDTs yet I’m happy to send you free samples just message me. I’m also happy to refer you to the good CDTs I know of.

The whole point of this is to say that YES, good CDTs are almost impossible to find in this sea of samples that smell like hay or wet grass clippings. BDTs too. And you most definitely get what you pay for in this project… a $.13cent plastic cartridge vs the $1.75 all glass and ceramic units. $1000/L disty vs $4000/L disty. Quality is always going to sell faster when it comes to inhaling vapor and passing the product over all those tastebuds.

#terpsovereverythang

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I’m looking for dead skunk run over by a leaking tanker truck and pissed on by a cat with a UTI. Got anything like that from botanicals?

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This is exactly what I mean. We have the same taste in likeable materials it sounds like… and there is almost no way to get a t-free, pesticide free, repeatable version of this on a large scale. We need to work together to get that exact smell you mentioned, into a bottle, and then use replica botanicals to actually create a brand with it and make it go further without compromising the original values.

Baby poop. Cat shit. Cheetah piss… Are all yes, technically found in nature, but not botanically necessarily. So you bring up another good point about the cannabis plant aroma, does it include tiny micro levels of flavonoids that we don’t have standards on a GC for? Yes. We would have to add a microscopic amount of probably hundreds of different components that wouldn’t even register as one drop into a 270gal tote of terpenes. If the GC could even pick them up at all. Would they even be derived from natural sources (an actual cat’s shit…)???

To answer your question: yes. Our parent company does make fart spray and doe estrus and all sorts of vile blends for the non-edible world. Are you asking me to put that in a terpene blend for vapes?

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If I can send you a fresh flower and you can send me back something really close, yes!

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