Ideas/Concepts for Raising Safety Awareness

didnt age well :frowning:

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Industry-wide awareness of the minimum amount of air circulation required for different areas in processing labs/facilites would be very helpful.

For example: How often does one’s booth air volume need to be replaced (i.e., booth volumes per hour)? How often does one’s lab room air volume need to be replaced (i.e., room volumes per hour)? How often does one’s fumehood air volume need to be replaced (i.e., flowrate or volumes per hour)?

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Exactly why we need to pin all important articles at the top and have a “spoon-fed” approach towards displaying safety information on this forum.

A primitive/traditional way would be to quote/link references of other subjects in the past in a single post thats pinned to the top, an example is like car build forums, they always have links to common threads with important info pinned to the top in each individual category of the forum, like DIY threads, common info, etc, all of which are usually just links to previous posts on the forum.

I think another thing would be to have a database/excel of compounds the industry uses and include MSDS info/links on each line and any reference links to discussion on this forum about that specific compound on the same line right next to MSDS info.

There is likely a way to scrape the data from somewhere and compile all the info, someone on fiver would probably do it cheap.

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Agreed on the pinned posts. I came from an automotive background and usually the pinned posts were where the newb questions or safety questions always revert back to.

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thats rad

Here is NFPA chapter 38.

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Anyone see that video going around of the guy using a lighter to leak test his butane system?

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Link please lol

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https://www.facebook.com/aatish1/videos/586011996156079/

It’s in a group so i don’t know if you’ll be able to see it.

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I don’t have Facebook I got zucked

Edit: you can see it without an account. The confidence with the guy doing it says this isn’t the first time he’s checked a system like this.

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To be fair, a lighter is a great way to detect a leak, just not the safest. lol

I’d prefer a canary, ya know, cause tradition.

But seriously, small scale options, and information sharing here is integral, I want to see this industry championed by the little guy. Safety shouldn’t be seen as a learning experience. It should be inherently accessible and known, that’s why you have this rash of new producers going up in flames. I personally don’t care for the approach the industry is taking, they’re just simply saying “buy a 50k extraction booth bro”. Which, doesn’t resolve the problem. You’ll still see explosions happen unless you can make safety accessible to each rung of the ladder.

By legislating the necessities being top end, you criminalize the guys figuring it out, and put them in even more danger frankly. So any argument that it’s “for safety” is laughable.

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Going dark

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Its important in general we do what we can to contribute to a wealth of information pertaining to safety protocols and SOPs, this will work to mitigate any future potential hazards in some ones startup process.

The last thing we need is law practitioners and legislators working to generate a barrier of entry through over safety regulation and contributing overall to allowing larger corporations to essentially dominate.

How about this, @sidco @Future could we create a sub category in data dump called “Safety & Regulation” ?? and everyone start throwing everything you have in there. We’ll start sorting the info and make a pinned post in the “Safety Regulation” category, we’ll do a search for safety and reference all of those topics, and we’ll sort them in the post with type, bold, underline, etc. Trusted members can modify the information displayed in the pinned post to amend new information or other pertinent topics of discussion.

In the background, we’ll see about compiling or locating a list of MSDS documentation?

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I’m just glad what I had to say here is being heard, and not brushed off. I think having that as header information here is important.

The posturing I’m seeing in the industry is unsettling.

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can a common sense brochure be helpful? i myself find to much focus being put into bigger issues then catch myself forgetting common sense safety things

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Would be nice to see someoen who can do graphic design that has a bit of time they’d be willing to donate to the cause to maybe make a 2 fold brochure or something? Would need someone to dream up its content as well, simple, 4-6 points probably tops?

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I am all for any accessible safety info. Brochures, informationals, info graphics, if you can produce a VHS tape. :rofl:

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A consecutive brochure sequence, one regarding gas safety, another grounding, and static, yet another with General safety info, basic do’s and don’ts.

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I just showed this to a plumber/HVAC friend and he said ah shit it’s only 5 psi max I used to do this all the time. Guess it’s more widespread than you’d think.

So, to be proactive, I guess maybe to refine the brochure idea. Each brochure should carry various safety information grouped together in pertaining sections, just like a text book. Feel free to spit ball ideas, this is just my rough idea on it.

  1. Solvents and msds regarding, also what to look out for, hazards, and mitigating techniques for harmful substances that can be leftover from chemical processing. Safe handling of powders and other hazardous materials.

  2. Static, dynamics and physics regarding dry solvents and dry clays and various media interactions and where static can “build up”.

  3. General lab safety, how one should handle common scenarios found in the lab, General maintenance advice, how often to swap gaskets, and spot leaks. Basics, the biggest of spoons.

Above all, and the hardest part, making sure the solutions are accessible, to even the dude hanging solvent tanks off their porch. :rofl:

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