Wouldnt ets have won the ipr if that was the case?
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I cant find the what youre referring to, can you post a link?
“ExtractionTek Stainless (ETS), the first cannabis extraction manufacturer to use only domestic steel in its closed-loop machinery, announces the institution of one of three inter partes review (IPRs) petition filings with the Patent Trial and Appeal Board (PTAB) at the United States Patent and Trademark Office. Institution is based on a reasonable likelihood that at least one of the claims challenged in the IPR petition is unpatentable. The institution of the first IPR starts a one-year clock for the PTAB to evaluate the claims in the patent in question and either confirm their validity or invalidate the claims and possibly the entire patent.”
What was the conclusion after the year, i cant find it
Did you watch the video above that cat posted where sean talks about?
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No, i had not watched it until just now. Looks like they “won” 1.5/3 of the IDRs and pushed it back. I would assume part of winning the IDR on hydrocarbon or alkane would have been a research or discovery stage where all prior tech was compared to the patent.
Still watching half way through rn
From what i believe they got TAMISIUM patent basically disassembled, but not udoxi.
Im pretty sure the ethanol patnent is against capana
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Claim 8:
The system of claim 1, further comprising:
a solvent collection line connected between the extract container and the solvent collection container; and
a coolant thermally coupled with the solvent collection line, the coolant having a condensing temperature selected to condense the post-extraction portion of the solvent to a liquid before the liquid is received by the solvent collection container.
-jacketed condensing coils?
Claim 12:
The system of claim 1, further comprising a canister interface configured to removably support the canister in fluid communication with the solvent source container and the extract container and to detachably support a supplemental canister in fluid communication with the solvent source container and extract container.
-removable columns with supports?
Claim 13-16:
- A system for extracting solute from a source material, the system comprising:
a solvent source container configured to store a solvent;
a canister detachably connected in fluid communication with the solvent source container and configured to store the source material in its interior, the canister configured to receive solvent from the solvent source container in its interior to produce an extract solution including the solvent and the solute extracted from the source material;
an extract container in fluid communication with the canister, the extract container being configured to receive the extract solution from the canister;
an extract container heating element thermally coupled with the extract container, the heating element configured to heat the extract solution received in the extract container to a distilling temperature, the distilling temperature being greater than or equal to a boiling point of the solvent and below a boiling point of the solute to produce a post-extraction portion of the solvent in the extract container; and
a canister interface configured to removably support the canister in fluid communication with the solvent source container and the extract container and configured to detachably support a supplemental canister in fluid communication with the solvent source container and extract container.- The system of claim 13, wherein the canister interface includes for each canister: an input valve configured to selectively adjust between an open position allowing fluid to enter the canister and a closed position restricting fluid entering the canister; and an output valve configured to selectively adjust between an open position allowing fluid to pass between the canister and the extract container and a closed position restricting fluid from passing between the canister and the extract container.
- The system of claim 14, further comprising a solvent compressor, the solvent compressor configured to: receive solvent from the solvent source container; heat the solvent to a predetermined temperature; compress the solvent to a predetermined pressure, the predetermined temperature and predetermined pressure selected to increase the efficiency in extracting solute from the source material; and communicate the solvent to one or more of the canister and the supplemental canister.
- The system of claim 13, further comprising a removably coupled canister heating element that is thermally coupled to the canister when the canister is coupled with the canister interface.
injection/recovery valves, active recovery, jacketed columns? this one is pretty dense
Claims 17-20:
- A system for extracting solute from a source material, the system comprising:
a solvent source container configured to store a solvent;
a canister in fluid communication with the solvent source container and configured to store the source material in its interior, the canister configured to receive solvent from the solvent source container in its interior to produce an extract solution including the solvent and the solute extracted from the source material;
an extract container in fluid communication with the canister, the extract container being configured to receive the extract solution from the canister
a heating element thermally coupled with the extract container, the heating element configured to heat the extract solution received in the extract container to a distilling temperature, the distilling temperature being greater than or equal to a boiling point of the solvent and below a boiling point of the solute to produce an evaporated post-extraction portion of the solvent and a post-extraction portion of the solute in the extract container; a solvent collection container in fluid communication with the extract container and in fluid communication with the solvent source container, the solvent collection container configured to fluidly receive the post-extraction portion of the solvent from the extract container and add the post-extraction portion of the solvent to a collected quantity of the solvent; a solvent collection line connected between the extract container and the solvent collection container, the solvent collection line configured to transmit the post-extraction portion of the solvent from the extract container to the solvent collection container; and a coolant thermally coupled with the solvent collection line, the coolant defining a predetermined condensing temperature selected to condense the post-extraction portion of the solvent to a liquid prior to being received by the solvent collection container.- The system of claim 17, further comprising:
a coolant line defining a coiled portion; and
a coolant pump, the coolant pump configured to pump a cooling fluid through the coolant line;wherein the solvent collection line defines a coiled portion, the coiled portion of the solvent collection line being engaged with the coiled portion of the coolant line.- The system of claim 17, further comprising a coolant loop line, the coolant loop line:
being in fluid communication with the coolant line at a coolant loop junction;
being configured to input fluid from the coolant line at the coolant loop junction;
being configured to output fluid to the coolant line at the coolant loop junction; and
including an expansion valve configured to evaporate input coolant along at least a portion of the length of the coolant loop line
wherein:
the coiled portion of the coolant line defines a first coiled portion of the coolant line
the coolant line defines a second coiled portion spaced from the first coiled portion; and the coolant loop line defines a third coiled portion, the third coiled portion of the coolant loop line being engaged with the second coiled portion of the coolant line.- The system of claim 17, further comprising a canister interface configured to removably support the canister in fluid communication with the solvent source container and the extract container and to detachably support a supplemental canister in fluid communication with the solvent source container and extract container.
condesing coil minutiae?
this stuff is incredibly dense, any insight beyond my own (mis)understanding would be welcomed
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I bet everyone of those guys and others would definitely fuck an 18 yr old escort that approached them in public tho king it’s their charm and success that’s attracting her
I bet they would be compliant with your demands after being texted a pic of that escort on a ID that said she was under the age of 18.
Let these fuckers see how real business gets done.
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What I don’t understand about gene pool and chemtor is they dont look extremely organized themselves. both of their websites look as elementary as you can get. You do research on the number of employees and market cap of both companies and they are tiny. Then you research their c-suite and its sorta a joke.
I bet if both didnt have legal counsel on the board wouldnt even have the money to file these type of lawsuits.
My data says 6 employees, corp based in Boulder, $147K annual sales, founded 2018
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PDXcanna thank you for binging to light in this forum what Sean was talking about and what remains of the Udoxi Patent now owned by others.
Does my comment about a pipe wrench now make sense?
This blog was split off from another conversation by the Great white Father. I feel it is misnamed because those Involved had never bothered to read the patent….
If you notice my quote in #1 “ “closed loop butane extraction methodology”…I was trolling anon a bit with some wise guy humor. But please notice the terminology “extraction methodology”. The method of closed loop “…is my point.
what is vague, is that I was referring to piping.
My opinions about the “chemistry of butane extraction” are fully expressed in “Butane works but not theory” .
Piping of closed loop systems and manifold design is certainly an area of innovation.
So if you have plenty of money and decide to buy a stainless wonder from XYZ Corp., there is a distinct possibiiity that the piping configuration is covered by a patent. It is not about the chemistry, the Udoxi original patent is on closed loop manifolds and piping arrangements.
Virtually everything in a certified and insured C1D1 facility is covered by patents…think about your light switches for example. Every single pipe and pipe fitting is covered by multiple patents and insured by manufacturer to meet specification of C1D1. This is why I say this forum is swimming in the abyss of ignorance.
Any negotiation for the sale of a 6 figure rig should have a clause insuring the purchaser from patent infringment.
There are definitely chemical process patents in addition piping configurations . I can guarantee you that there are first step biomass extraction procedures that no one here has ever imagined.
Thank you PDXcanna for bringing this to light and delineating the issue. You now see Sidco-cat and Sean’s next hall million dollar “chip”. We should call these guys the “ Legal Committee” and support their efforts. My guess about 80% of the posters here have not read the UDOXI patent and think the issue is Butane chemistry.
Pipe wrench solutions.
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One of the partners prob has partner or stake into some legal group. That and they have convinced some ambulance chaser lawyer who likes to copy and paste to make legal briefings that if they help them on contingency they can take 50% off the top. Typically when you see patent shark companies like this their mode of opperation includes not paying for legal fees. The patent holding firms are somehow associated or even partially connected to a legal firm for highly discounted non income related legal work. The fact that these suits may have cost those companies in legal processes and expert witnesses so much money in these cases may have a domino effect against them when there are no settlements and case closures coming in their favor in the meantime…so basically it’s a roulette wheel in real life. You can’t but feel bad for ets and other companies involved because they are fighting a lawsuit over patents that were copied and written based on other people’s world most of which was public info on Facebook and Instagram. One of the the only early patents that was filed first was the Tami companies patents. What they need to do is contact the people with the first Instagram channels and Facebook group posters who were all posting these processes and advancements publicly and therefore giving these patent frauds a avenue to file unsuspecting patents against the people who were actually posting and showing the community what they were doing.
It’s similar to willy billy, most of his patent work is so incredibly late to the game that the people who filed it should have used better judgement, research, and due diligence with a chemist or industry process engineer. Just about everything about his work with chemtor will lead to unenforceable action and end up putting William(willy billy) into a lawsuit where his patent litigators will sue him for defrauding them and forcing them to litigate without knowing what they are getting into. I can’t imagine what the process and legal repercussions are for copy and pasting public knowledge that is widely used into a plagiarized patent that was only partially rewritten to further advanced the filing. Unfortunately there are a lot of patent holding companies and patent litigators that get dragged into these nonsense chad situations and end up suing those people for defrauding them.
Willy billy, what do you think will happen to you if chemtor finds out what you did to them? Did you sign a addendum that absolves you from fraud in this case?
Willy billy what do you think the market will do when they find out you engaged in massive misleading campaigns for the products you make or made. What do you think your licensee’s will do when they find out you forced them to engage in fraudulent licensing scheme. Will they just stop paying you, or will they go after you for all the money they spent licensing and or paying you for said license you make claims about.
Can we tag chemtors? Are they part of the industry. Will they have the ability to see this forum and recognize taking precautions and steps in their risk department to re evaluate the legitimacy of willy billys patents? I’m sure chemtors doesn’t want to spend money on legal action on others based on Williams fraudulent claims and patent writings that they took under their wing under false confidence that Williams assured them. I mean Willy billy, it’s clear that you had to lie about the patents, and lie to them for help getting the patents, and continued to lie over and over about other people’s work being yours to them for the continuation of the process and licensing/holding such patents under false pretenses. What do you think they will do when they realized you plagiarized someone else work, lied to them and then mislead the public about the products you were making or selling under your own exercise of patent rights.
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You gotta laugh at their snarky play on “The Future of Cannabis is Patent Pending.” I think publicity like this only helps them gain more, and all this let’s make an army and fight other armies mentality is cute.
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Are you legit having a mental breakdown? Go touch some grass and stop using whatever drugs got you so tweaked out
You’d think someone with so many patents wouldn’t be worried.
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I’m just trying to have a conversation with a industry cat like yourself. Adults can address and relate the subject without deflecting as a preventative to addressing and commenting on the topic. Here’s the community asking you, are you going to be transparent and honest about your actions and intentions that are being addressed to you directly?
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At this point this is an echo chamber thread lmao
This industry and especially this forum cant get out of thier own way
I love when individuals think they are the entire community 
Did you miss the other comments about people questioning your intentions on here?
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At this point how worried are you that the community will send this forum link and pages to chemtor for their risk department to go through.
Asking for a friend.
Uh oh someone said it.
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Why dont you refresh my memory