Best weeds I ever smoked were actually outdoors.
Light assisted, climate controlled deps and indoor can be hard to tell apart.
The stuff that makes it out to the Midwest from the west coast, is easily spotted as deps, gh, and outdoor by anyone who knows what theyâre looking at.
Thereâs no magic bullet or key insight to tell where itâs grown.
You can check bud density, trim job / trichome disturbance from being machine-trimmed, the odor to check if cured or just dried, and conduct testing for potency, pesticides, and maybe a mold or water activity to ensure it doesnât rot on the way to retail.
Quality assurance is tough in the field.
Tl;dr: Cut the stem and count the rings. Even rings means indoor, odd rings means itâs hemp.
You really canât tell the difference from climate controlled light assisted greenhouse and indoor.
In California I donât think think climate controlled light greenhouse will be around for much longer unless the current regulatory structure is changed. Due to the fact that city square footage taxes and state cultivation taxes donât discern between greenhouse or indoor, I can actually grow indoor cheaper than climate controlled greenhouse. Iâve never walked in to a hard sided greenhouse that was over 600umol most of the year. My personal yields at that light level are typically 3/4lb per square foot, per year. In a decent indoor environment with co2 I average 1.25lb per square foot, per year. Given those facts, I have several indoor clients where we achieve cheaper cost to produce than my greenhouse. Hoop houses in a favorable environment are obviously a different animal.
Honestly indoor vs greenhouse vs outdoor shouldnât matter. Pot should be sold for what it is. If a guy can achieve better pot in a hoop house in Humboldt than another guy that grows mediocre indoor. The guy in Humboldt deserves to be paid more.
Iâve been offered lbs at 250 for greenhouse and no one even wants it at that price. Indoor is still holding strong⌠I know people who donât have a huge following and a billion lights who kill it and always will. Their genetics and quality are on point⌠and heâs getting 4500 a lb for his shit all day in Oregon. On the east coast I hear it going for 6k⌠Some people grow really nice LOOKING indoor, but itâs still just pgr crap and no matter how good it looks it will never be at the level of a true craft farmer whoâs gone through the gene pool and really dialed their shit in.
It does matter though⌠and itâs still just deps at that point. High grade indoor will always be on top. If you canât grow it right, and someone growing in a hoop house is beating your quality then you should probably just bend over and stick a banana in your ass and start to cry because youâre a gay fag who sucks at growing and canât do anything right.
I mean the sun grows better weed then a light bulb
Their cost per pound is like $180 now but thereâs a good chance it falls to $110 or below within a year when they move into the monster facility in the video⌠CA has become such a mess that idk if theyâll survive, but itâs a cool experiment (that cost over $500 million)
If that was the case there wouldnât be an indoor marketâŚ
No because of helicopters thereâs an indoor market. If that wasnât a thing itâd be ALL light dep from growers who know what theyâre doing
Their published COGS is about $180. When you look at their financials and take their fixed costs (city/county taxes, real estate, marketing, management, etc) in to account, their real break even is closer to $600. Then the state tax is applied on top of that.
I know of/work with several (obviously smaller) indoor operators that are at a real break even of roughly $400.
So, their survivability is questionable. They have good quality, but not boutique quality.
Good point about the real COGS. For them remember that they have processing+retail facilities included in SG&A/etc too, so the cost/lb is probably like 2-2.5x what they report.
Iâm pretty skeptical of them, but who knows⌠theyâre better than the Parent Company but thatâs not saying much.
Their model pretty much relies on federal legalization very soon. What they grow is considered mids by a lot of people, and that mid market is completely saturated, but they want to grow more of it? It looks to me like theyâre going to repeat the massive overproduction that happened in Canada.
Parent Co. Should just start lighting money on fire.
Iâve NEVER seen light dep look like top shelf indoor so yaaaaâŚbut maybe yâall havenât seen fire indoor dunnooooooo
Im gonna get yelled at for asking this question- anyone got pics of what light dep stuff looks like?
âIf you canât grow it right, and someone growing in a hoop house is beating your quality then you should probably just bend over and stick a banana in your ass and start to cry because youâre a gay fagâ
wow, nice attitude. I have lots to learn from you im sure.
the best weed isnt the most blingiest instagramish all the time/
Yeah based on how you carry yourself Iâm gonna say you donât know shit.
Yeah, you said sheeple. I donât need any more proof youâre functionally retarded.
Got any youtube videos âthatâll BLOW OUR MIND AND OPEN OUR EYESâ too?