@kcalabs have you seen any samples tested with these three toxins?
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I would suggest a real toxicology test is appropriate if we think there are harmful chemicals, done by real toxicology labs. But thats my opinion. Would like to hear what everyone else has to say.
Though tempting to see differences around the country, since this is crowdsourced I think eliminating as much bias as possible is the best way forward
Yes, but only very low levels
That’s what I was willing to contribute.
What’d they test for on the LC-MS/MS?
We have access to the same libraries they use.
The question people want answered is “Do products in the market have worrisome levels of olivetol, p-cresol, and phthalates in them?” However subjective that might be. We’re not writing regulatory action levels here.
If the scope needs to be expanded then there can be a phase 2 and we’ll raise some funds to send to a tox lab.
I am not a subject matter expert, but can ask my team. But looks like it is against the NIST database for known toxins and chemicals… No one shoot me if I am out of my element here.
“Analysis by GCMS, mass spectral data compared with American Academy of Forensic Sciences (AAFS) and Wiley/ National
Institute of Science and Technology (NIST) mass spectrometry libraries.”
Whatever is included in there.
I was kind of bringing this up to broaden our search I guess for toxins and chemicals was my main agenda. I can imagine there could be more than 3 potential harmful reactants.
For sure, do you know the price on the analysis they perform?
i think it was 600-800$ but 50% more for 5 day rush standard is 10 day
Hopefully sooner than later - have a few things in the works. Call me anytime bro
So why not buy 10 different branded carts… mix together and send off for one of these complex test… then go from there?
Dilution of a contaminant or toxin is the issue then
why the plaque? just get a mini can so they can throw their trash out;)
Cause it’s something they’d have to read
@kcalabs thank you for doing this and good luck. I am interested in seeing what comes out of this.
Just donated.
I got a set of clones to whomever claims them & shows proof of donation to the @kcalabs bad cart testing gofundme
Goal reached @kcalabs
Wow, let’s do this thing. Makes me glad we’re a part of this community.
Is anything else’s needed that happened fast
