I really can’t see that being a viable pathway for bulk gas cleaning by distributors. Why would they use an extraction machine? Seems to make far more sense to go even higher upstream, at places of production, and fit it into the big processflow posted in the “It’s not Isobutane thread”. They aren’t using CLS for the rest of the process, so why would they have any need to create additional intrinsically safe spaces?
To be clear, I suggest that this needs to be tackled at the source of contamination, in the production process.
I personally love mine. Fast to clean, and there’s never a drop in the main collection vessel.
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I can’t imagine a gas treatment plant scaling well outside of a proper refinery
Ideally, it would be nice to find a refinery that only does separations and no value added products(amines, ppo, peroxides etc)
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I get the fast crash on almost any material I run be it fresh frozen with no CRC or trim with CRC. Or I did running THC gas. Ran some different gas the other day and no fast crash.
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Fast crash where? in the pot? Jar?
Both. And in the material column and in a surge chamber w/ or w/out media to go through 0.2.
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Damn that sounds horrible. What gas do you use? I use solvent direct and I have never seen “fast crash” and we run multiple strains all into diamonds mostly. Only time it happens is when I work with isolate and I let it get past the cloud point
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I saw a jar crash to 90% completion last week, in 20 minutes. Pretty wild to watch.
Jars extracted one day prior are still finishing. Exact same CRC media pack, exact same run parameters.
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The lids on jars don’t all hold the same. Some kink faster or more than others. Also depending on how tight you twist each band on each jar matters. That could determine why some do it and some don’t. If one can’t hold a proper seal, it will off gas and since there is no heat energy being applied to it, it will cold crash out the thca that fast. Use a welded bottom base instead of a jar to be able to hold a proper seal
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Same exact butane as you. Regardless of supplier. They both get it from diversified. Cept solvent direct gets his from Kaplan and Kaplan gets it from diversified.
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The Medusa I have seen with just about every supplier. The fast crash no. It must be something else then if we use the same gas but you still get the fast crash
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Or running cold and not having as many inactive compounds canceling it out. Then going through a larger amount of media, including the activated alumina, probably lowers the concentration of whatever the fuck the problem is. Meaning you wouldn’t see it as easily while the butane is cooling. Also viewing from the top it’s not very close. So it showing up afterwards would make sense.
Can you hit the reply button to me please and not the thread. I don’t get get notification.
Many 10lb runs I won’t even use 100g of media. Most of your media’s are closer to 45-100g a lb. High amounts media can definitely make this less reactive from what it seems
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So are you suggesting it’s in the biomass then? I run many different parameters all the time when doing RnD runs for the medias and still don’t see it. I also use only isolate at times which does not involve crc and the gas will not cause a fast crash either.
Edit: I hit reply but it still won’t link you
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I’m not suggesting at all that’s it’s in the biomass
What do you mean by this? I understood it as running cold will pick up less from the biomass
Running warm picks up more inactive compounds, correct? And normally you tend to run warmer solvent than I do. Normally. Many people not having the issue, it seems, are also operating at warmer extraction temperatures. With the presence of more inactive compounds (lipids, other vegetable oils, and other solubles) , similar regards to higher terpenes content (inactive compounds), it doesn’t show up as easily. That’s what I mean.
Though, different biomass reacts differently, too. Certain strains seems to be more reactive than others. Same strain in flower form, instead of trim, still reacts like a weirdo, but not as bad as the trim.
But yes, cold picks up less from the biomass. As in vegetable oils, solubles, etc etc
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Thanks for clarifying. I understand that going warmer is going to dilute the thca hence why it won’t cold crash as easily, but I’ve ran cold as well during RnD runs and still don’t have the issue. It also doesn’t explain why it won’t happen either when working with isolate only
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I had some clean butane that I was playing with the other day, added it to a jar that was causing issues before (I’ve had this one a while and wanted to come back to it) and it’s still in that one. But not the one next to it, at the same temp. Only difference was that the funky one had a weird brick in it previously. I’ll see if I can find a pic or video of it previously. But it started to get some small Medusa bars. Put it in a slightly warm oven and it melted them away and then more of the thca in the jar.
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Medusa will happen for sure if I use isolate and new gas, but the fast crash I’m just not seeing it
Get the butane colder and agitate. Or purposely cold recover
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Yea I used to do that before to make all my isolate to later crystallize. It will crash because it gets too cold lowering the solubility, not because of an impurity