John: do you mean “stones” as in “Medussa Stone” vernacular.?
thanks in advance…
Has to be his current supplier.
And @johnbigoilco I’m game.
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current supplier. This same supplier we used for years with no issues. Then out of the blue issues arose and have never been rectified. People keep eluding its our SOP that is causing the issue and not the gas. So what im saying is if you can use our gas and make diamonds that are nice a faceted but dont turn to “medusa stones” I would pay you 10k.
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I know it’s the gas
Can you find different gas?
Try distilling a couple dozen cans of lighter fluid and using that
It has benzene in most blends as well as toluene and xylene. So if it doesn’t Medusa with benzene you know it’s probably propylene or something else in your existing solvent
my issue is we have tried multiple suppliers. They all get their gas from cortland or diversified. Seems to happen with every supplier with 1 out of 50 batches randomly coming out fine. I cant use another supplier until I can prove my current supplier is causing the issue. Kinda hard to prove when I cant go else where. Except for the fact I can rex in pentane and have no issues.
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John, that recent summary is basically the same from post 100 or so…
I’d gladly take your offer as well. I want fresh dark coffee and
a homemade donut…every morning till I’m done.
If I remember correctly there is a crc step involved?
If so , some preliminary data on exactly how the CRC step
is performed.
Give me a DM if none of the other applicants figure it out.
best regards,
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I vote for @moronnabis for the 1st shot at it. Get the coffee and doughnuts ready LOL.
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appreciate the vote of confidence…the possibility of sarcasm
on this site is high…so I will leave it at that.
The others are highly qualified.
The butane stuff has been bugging me since 2015.
There is a lot to learn on this forum.
regards,
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Your chance to shine @moronnabis
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$$$ nothing else.
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Not if you’re using B80, the cheapest media on the market.
Kinda thought “closest you’ll find” covers that, but hey, semantics.
Some coffee and blumpkin and it’s on
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Who only uses b80 that isn’t distilling their product? 
@Dukejohnson Wook tek v1.8
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I’ve seen a patent in which it is claimed that by adding 5‰ acetic acid to the butane, yields of THCa is higher than without acetic acid added.
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indeed…somebody has to break the “news”
875 and counting…more real than sauce.
link to the patent?
It’ll probably take me a good minute to find it, but I’ll try.
here is one: Isolation of Cannabinoid Acids
[64] In embodiments where the method is to be used for the isolation of cannabinoid acids, an acidified extraction solvent to prepare the initial extract may optionally be used to ensure the extraction of high levels of cannabinoid acids. The primary purpose of this acidification is to prevent/minimise ionisation of the cannabinoid acid, which could otherwise adversely affect the purification process. In one embodiment, the method uses acidified non-polar solvents, of the types described above. Acidification may be achieved by the addition of a small volume of acid to the solvent. Generally, it is sufficient to add a relatively weak acid, such as acetic acid. For any given purification process the optimal amount and type of acid used may be determined empirically. An example of an acidified solvent is 0.1 % acetic acid in hexane. Other solvents include pentane, hexane, heptane, cyclohexane, petroleum ethers, dichloromethane, trichloromethane, tethrahydrofurane, diethyl ether, ethanol, methanol, isopropanol, acetone, acetonitrile, ethyl acetate, butane, propane, refrigerant gas 1 ,1 ,1 ,2-Tetrafluoroethane (R134a), liquid CO2, subcritical CO2 or supercritical CO2 or mixes of these solvents This is the extraction solvent of choice for preparing an initial extract from the starting plant material in the preparation of cannabinoid acids.
So you’re wondering about CO2?
Literature reports that pK of Carbonate at high pressure is
shifted to about 2.5. Assume it robs the water from the 10% residual in Dried biomass.
Calli…dabs: “No one is mixing an acid with their butane. Closest you’ll find is folks filtering through an acidic media.”
Calli is 100% correct about this issue…Butane extractors (for the most part) seem quite unaware of the details of
THCA’s idiosyncratic chemical (solubility) properties
…which are pH dependent in aqueous and aprotic solvents.
This entire sub discussion only applies when you are trying to isolate cannabinoic acids or for that matter crystallize cannabinoic acids.
878 counting
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Thanks for the find! It doesn’t take much of an additive to have substantial effect. I remembered 5‰, but 1‰ is even “Farm Bill compliant” 
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