Delta 9 into Delta 8

Youll also have a ph issue using c bleach, the degumming clay or citric acid for degumming

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Hey, diden’t say you were cray cray! There may be other factors afoot. :nerd_face:

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i was referring to my coworkers lol

we use the glass packs from LS, little glass cylinders. running a LS 12L unit

Hi AnonymousD, did you figure out what was the cause of the dark emerald green distillate? Ive never heard of that. I dont think it was carbon or an absorbant because even when I used cbeach in my rbf it never came close to bumping over even when I ramped up the stirbar and the end of the distillation. It sounds like some pH reaction but usually you see pinks, purples, or reds not greens. I dont think its azulene considering it sounds like its not a pigment. Do you remember if the emerald color came over in one fraction or was all the distillate the same color? Have you seen @anon42519203 method of bump trap azulene removal? It it turns out to be a pigment or azulene after all that is a great way to clean up your distillate and get a loose boiling point of the impurity.

Thanks for sharing!

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I dont know why I didn’t find this before but I stumbled upon a method to convert delta 9 to delta 8 from @BR-Instrument (link: Convert delta-9-thc to delta-8-THC using spinning band distillation) Does BR or anyone else have a supplier of acidic alumina silicate they could recommended? I would like to try this out and compare the results to Cbleach.

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^ @BR-Instrument?

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Thanks for sharing!

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Id be willing to bet the green comes from not fully burping your azulene fraction and pushing in to your thc fraction

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@FranzVon @coppertop

I did not write that and I’m not super familiar with scrubs or adsorbents. I don’t think aluminum silicate is
used, but rather activated alumina. I could be wrong though.

We recommend Carbon Chemistry @Shadownaught . We send some Carbon Chemistry sample products to some of our more experienced users who want to try pre-processing techniques. If anyone is a more advanced processor and owns a B/R feel free to reach out. I think we have one more sample box! I have to say all of the feedback we have gotten has been positive and people go and buy more.

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Aluminum silicate is a fancy way to say “clay”.

Our T41 clay is ideal for that isomerization when used excessively in a hot distillation (or extra reflux). T41 is widely available from folks like @Killa12345 and vendors across the country. You can visit www.carbon-chemistry.com for SDSs and some SOPs.

@BR-Instrument

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link to paper with spectral data (extinction coefficents etc) on a number of cannabinoids.

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Hello I honestly have never posted into a conversation with strangers online before. This thread could really help me decide if Delta 8 is a developing arena of profit. My step son owns a huge Multi million dollar e cig Vape Juice/ CBD products company/brand called “SAVAGE” He knows nothing of a mind altering experience. He knows I medicinally do. So he asked my husband and I to invest with him. I just can’t figure out who the main market of this stuff would go to? If your tolerance to it builds so fast. It seems you would quickly want some delta 9 then I bet quickly want full strength. My husband ate a half a cookie once and lost his mind for 4 hourrs I currently have my husband over $750,000 invested between a public traded holding company MJNE plus a delivery service in Vegas. I think I made better profit margins selling it in high school! This market is so flooded with morons that don’t even have a relationship with it but have the bank roll! We are not one of them. I sometimes feel I had a closer relationship to it before it went legal. Now nothing is as good as stuff that u pack .2 and get 5 hits that all taste good. I have love life and history of over 22 years with this plant. I want to discover possibilities rather than duplicate what’s being done. So I am trying to get a head of big corporate small minded thinking on this Delta 8 arena? If anyone has any thoughts on my randomness it would be great fully appreciated. I hope this makes sense I am not going to reread it or I would chicken out and deleted it.

This showed up in my inbox this morning.

Folks are catching on.

Somebody will have to end up in court before we have clarity imo.

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good read, but I don’t see anything mentioned on there about delta 8, which imo is the real behemoth about to emerge

:thinking: guess I put that in there between the lines…probably before opening it.

they do mention “hemp-derived THC”, and you’re gonna have a really hard time convincing me that Δ8 Tetrahydrocannabinol falls outside of the definition of a THC… the varins are also THC’s, as are the other R-group variants (if you haven’t seen the data-dump yet… Data Dump! (Scientific Papers) ).

the “loophole” they are discussing is certainly that through which folks are hoping to/currently shipping their “Δ8” , and is very relevant to @JJolene’s question.

you can also make Δ9 from hemp, and should be able to navigate the rules in the exact same manner…the D8 high is not the same, but not everyone is looking for something they can be functional on. Many are looking for a Δ9 high, and tell has it that there folks selling Δ8 carts in non-rec states as Δ9.

There’s a straightfoward way to isomerize D9 into D8. It probably has more limitations than the obvious ones, but we didn’t experiment with it very much.

  1. Make D9 THC via distillation as usual. (It probably just needs to be decarboxylated from THCA to THC, but I dunno.)
  2. Redissolve the distillate into ethanol.
  3. Add activated carbon and stir it around. (This is what does it.)
  4. Filter out the carbon.
  5. Distill as usual.

It came out crystal clear, like water.
Before this process we had 86.7% D9
After this process we got 79.8% D8 with 7.2% D9 remaining.

We didn’t continue to experiment with this, so I know nothing about optimizations or variations.

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This method is the best for D9 to D8 I find and always claimed

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Is anyone here a consultant or have a facility, open for a facetime or know of any courses?
Background, I have a degree in environmental and sustainability studies with an econ minor with a passion for connections to multiple people with hemp farms. As an efficiency minded person with a passion for helping people see the benefits from both cbd and thc, I know there is a ton of product laying around in warehouses/storage because a variety of these growers didnt have a complete end market for how much they ended up with so my impetus is to help eliminate part of this problem. I have recently been given the information that I have people who would invest to make this happen to avoid lost or sitting product. My current problem is that I’ve been reading as much on the topic as I can but I have so little chemistry experience that I find myself googling so many just chemistry terms and basics that it seems so abstract, when Im a very in-person and hands on learner. Ive watched processes like extract labs youtube video at a smaller scale and want to see more of what it looks like at a bigger process.
I could provide you all the information I know and maybe there are some big words/ process as it seems but know I Appreciate the time and consideration.

Why bother, it’s already near the bottom of the market? Can you compete at <2000 a liter, and are you willing to risk jail to do so?

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