And a MSD sheet from the forest service with a more detailed list of ingredients
https://www.fs.fed.us/rm/fire/wfcs/products/msds/foam/wd881.pdf
Including, a Alpha-olefin Sulfonate Solution and 2,4-pentanediol, 2-methyl
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As I told you, Im not sure if what I did was correct. My approach could very well be off. I cant say what I tried wouldnāt work because alot of the research ive done said it would. It was about an occurrence at high temps, and what the salt decomposed to that I feel might facilitate in the reaction being available at the temp we need.
The problem is this has been made on a VTA, BR and SPD. Heat and residence time mean nothing. If they did then the VTA wouldnt have made it, especially because it has such a short residence time and it uses alot less heat then a regular spd or br
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Thanks for replying. I guess I dont understand the reaction if heat and res time mean nothingā¦
I was actually thinking about degradation too but I donāt think thatās whatās happening, itās a catalytic reaction meaning you need a catalyst. If it was heat and time it would be isomerization which can cause d10 but not in high enough levels to isolate.
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you know the catalyst so you gotta have a perfect understanding of whats going on, no? I thought you just wont say cus your bound by an nda. I must have misunderstood.
No, we do not have a perfect understanding on how d10 is made. If that were the case wed have several catalyst that can make it. I have 4 I need to try and see what kind of levels of d10 they produce.
None of which have been listed here or contain ammonia
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Thanks for clarifying. Lemme know if I can try anything specific out to help with what loose understanding I might have.
Iām gonna go clean my spd right now and start, I should be able to have test results by tomorrow
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I do think ammonia will most likely cause some d10 because of the PH, just like MgO causes d10. I donāt think youll get over 15% though, like Iāve said before you need a catalyst. @The_Lone_Stiller tried ammonia and it hasnt bloomed after a month so it cant be over 60% or it would crystallize on itās own in a week or two
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Of course. I want to make d6 next tbh lol. Lemme see if I can find it give me a few. Met someone at the GLG event who did carboxylation, wild shit. Some atoms get 2 so its technically thc a a/b in one.
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Any updates for us you can share?
We are still working on x-ray crystallography of delta-10, that should answer a few remaining questions we have about the isomer.
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Did you get a single crystal yet?
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yes, hoping it is large enough for x-ray. will know by friday.
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For the batches that did not crystallize, were you still able to crash out the d10 with heptane?
Has anyone used any other alkanes to crash out d10?
Yeah man. I posted about base making d10 based off of the original report. These guys used either n butyllithium with HMPA in toluene or you can also use potassium tert butoxide in DMF.
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this a book or pdf?
Itās a review paper from 2016:
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