@Dabatronicus have you ever been tried d8?
The fact you think it gets you super high is hilarious lol
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Minimal is relative. It’s psychoactive and a CB1 agonist, dose dependently, it will get you high. From The literature , it’s about half as psychoactive as d9. It’ll easily get some random sheltered kid whiting out
Bro theyve done tests on it in israel go do some real research Google isnt your friend here
You think a random kid will measure out 20mg doses, even volumetrically?
I’ve ingested it? It’s definitely psychoactive.
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But of course I dabbed it
The study you posted in oral ingestion
D8 converts to its own 11-hydroxy and oxo metabolites(not the same as d9 like you claimed)
He’s also right, CBN is not a conformational or stereoisomer of CBD.
It’s like saying Cyclohexene and benzene are isomers which they aren’t
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Go argue with mechoulam about that 
I find it funny you’ve never read any of the old literature.
Let me find the study done in the 70s where mechoulam found both delta 8 and 9 to isomerize into 11 hydroxy delta 9 thc
That study doesnt prove d8 becomes 11 hydroxy delta 8 thc in your stomach, they orally administer it lol
Yeah d8 is federally illegal, d10 however is not listed though would fall under the analogue act. There is contradictory literature in the farm bill saying that only d9 from hemp is illegal, but I guarantee your local law enforcement gives no fucks about the farm bill.
From my states controlled substance act, : “including any of their salts, ISOMERS, esters, ethers, and salts of isomers, esters, or ethers that are theoretically possible within the specific chemical designa- tion, in any form contained in a plant, obtained from a plant, or chemically synthesized:”
THCV is unscheduled but is a homologue of thc with a 3 carbon alkyl chain whereas thc has a 5 carbon alkyl chain. Technically THCV should be illegal under the federal analogue act but so should cbd so I wouldn’t worry about it.
We should collectively subvert the feds and work together to make THCV available in all these hemp/cbd shops. Does anyone have bioassay data on THCV… is it even worthwhile?
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Working on HHC creation as well we ar probably gonna run with until we get a cease and desist. Still debating that
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I’m working on optimizing a route to d8-THC-O-acetate. How much do you think think a kilo should go for? If you know interested parties, please send them my way.
Also making some CBN from CBD before this next crop floods the market and the prices drop.
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I know someone with a sythesis for this
@anon93688 nows your chance
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Read the drug code I posted above that makes d8 illegal, then read the astrick at the bottom.
There are exclusions
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Can you clarify this? The study you posted is orally administered d8. That means it’s been eaten.
The study I posted shows it being metabolized in the liver to distinct d8 metabolites, after oral administration
This is all super irrelevant, the point is d8 gets you high. If sold like CBD on the internet, it will lead to kids taking too much and it being quickly picked up my national media, forcing some kind of court decision or new legislation.
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I mean exactly what I said.
This does not prove d8 becomes 11 hydroxy delta 8 in your stomach.
Not sure how you think it could, considering the levels of the "metabolite " they claim d8 to make didnt increase in their blood steam at all after administering it.
Mechoulam did a study back in the 70s that said either d8 or d9 becomes 11 hydroxy delta 9 thc in your stomach, this is the study most people to off of when talking about metabolites of thc.
Not saying its correct but ive always used this as a reference because most people agree with it.
Who said stomach, oral cannabinoids are metabolized by the liver. I posted a study showing this specifically with d8.
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You dont think eat d8 and putting it into stomach acid is going to cause changes before it even hits your liver?
Go inject some d8 and lmk how that goes because youd have to in order to bypass your stomach and go straight to your liver.
Yah, they definitely know what’s going on. I wish the DEA microgram journal publications were still publicly available, I can only wonder what those DEA chemists are researching. The feds most likely give no fucks and have given up on cannabis at this point. Local cops are a completely different story.
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@Dabatronicus I’ve thought for a while d 8 could make 11 hydroxy delta 8 thc but the mechoulam paper said different.