Cortland Propane - Certificate of Analysis

To be completely honest, and I mean this with no disrespect, but the lab results that @Dxmimg used did not actually say Cortland Energy on it. They also weren’t our customer, but had bought from Elite Solvents in Oregon. THC Gas only got involved with that thread because we were responding to an issue with Cortland Energy, and we motivated them to assess and fix the situation, which they did. But @dxmimg was never our customer.

While I understand your emotions around the possibility of being exposed to these toxic chemicals, I can say with confidence that we’ve done our due diligence to not only recall any possible tainted gas, but spent time, money, and a lot of energy to make sure that we are providing safe solvents for extractors.

I’m not sure if you’re interested, but I’d like for you to try our gas yourself. I can send you a free 20 lb tank for you to distill, test, use, whatever you want. We have hundreds of happy customers that are producing quality concentrates with our gas, we’d like for you to be one of them.

I’m not sure why you keep referring to our COA as homemade, as any company providing information is going to be “homemade”. Our company is using gas chromotography equipment that costs hundreds of thousands of dollars, plus we hire scientists who are responsible for monitoring the quality of gas that we’re providing. I’m not sure what the difference between our COA and Solvent Directs signature of approval from a cleaning technician is, but it’s all the same. No other gas company that I’ve seen has gone through the trouble of getting their gas tested third party either, which we did, because of a complaint from someone who wasn’t even working with us. I think we’ve gone above and beyond for @dxmimg, and he wasn’t even our customer. Thank you.

Yes, I did recommend that you try using solventless extraction methods, as I thought that charging you 1500$+ for a single tank of butane would not make much sense, for you. I tried recommending that you source from canada as the shipping costs would be less. My apologies, I was just trying to be a good business professional. I’d rather not extort a customer, but if you want that, I’m sure there are many who will do so gladly.

@Capttripppp

Have you tried welding supply stores. Places like Oxarc or airgas…

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I thought that the $1,500 was for a pallet, or 4 tanks shipping? It’s not a big deal really, and I am going to get gas no matter what. I understand what you meant, and don’t feel bad you’re not the first and I doubt you’ll be the last. As soon as people see that I am in Alaska shit goes south quick when it comes to shipping. That’s the cost for living up here… Expensive shipping. I’ve been up here for going on 9 years, and have made my amends with the shipping many many moons ago.
I just thought it was funny because you are literally the first person to recommend just not using butane. I’ve already purchased my gear, and I’m not in a position to purchase a press, or go the solvent less route. I can’t even say that I wish things were different because that would be a lie. I’m happy with my choice, and will stay with it. Thank you though

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My dude, if you reread our texts, I quoted you $450 a tank for just the pallet. I said for 4 tanks, it’d be 1800, and then you’d want to sell the other 5. The delivery charges are $2398 - that’s just for the shipping charges, our price, from our logistics company. That’s without marking you up. Altogether, a pallet of butane would cost you $6,448. Plus tax.

I had no intention of making you feel like I didn’t want your business, and in fact tried to help you out by suggesting solventless. Because, despite what you might think, I am actually trying to look out for your best interest. My philosophy is, I’m not the end all be all for everybody. If I feel like you’re better served in a way that’s not going to pay me, I’m still going to tell you about it so you have all the options.

If you are dead set on using butane, then go for it. If I were you, I’d look at canada - they’ve got a shit ton of extraction suppliers everywhere and depending on your situation, you could just pick it up yourself. Best of luck with whatever you do though.

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Why not save all that change and just send out your solvent for a COA from a reputable lab? Do you guys refine the solvent in-house?

Because we’re using $160,000 equipment to test our gas. Thanks. I know you like to stick to this really weird idea that we’re just doing some homemade fart bag test to prove our gas is clean, but we aren’t.

And yes, we refine it at Cortland Energy, which is an independent gas processing plant. Most companies that you buy your solvents from are resellers of Gas Innovations, who has the lions share of the solvent market. That’s also the reason why, when you get bad gas from another company, they don’t do anything about it. We got our testing from a third party, you can check it in the thread. We also pulled any and all Cortland Energy products that may have been contaminated, refused to continue selling until we were sure that we had clean gas, AND got the gas tested third party because we wanted to make sure our equipment was matching another certified labs.

If there’s another solvents company who’s done that much to make sure people can smoke fantastic dabs, I’d love to know about it.

Can you show us what that looks like. Never heard that method of hplc?

Can you test cannabis potency like this too. Throw some weed in a bag. Fart in it. And the smell gives the potency??

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This is also the reason why Specialty Analytical, who @Dxmimg got their lab results from, had contaminants of oxygen, carbon dioxide, and other environmental gases in both samples that they tested. That test is not standard for the hydrocarbon industry, and that lab is not in the cannabis industry. You should maybe look up their company and see what they specialise in. https://specialtyanalytical.com/

As everyone on future4200 seems to trust this lab explicitly, I’ve spoken with them and we’re going to get our gas tested there, despite them not actually being in the hydrocarbon space. It makes no sense to me why this company is so trusted yet our $160k COA is not, but we’ll play by ya’lls rules.

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And I mean I’ve known guys to smoke fart weed but they’re not exactly the experts in the field that I’m asking for advice. I tend to prefer to work with people who are actually in the same industry as I am.

What’s fart weed?

Haven’t heard this term before…

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I was just making a joke tbh. throwback to those good ol’ brick weed days… although sometimes it wasn’t completely terrible.

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Fart bag wook breath rosin?

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Hey you guys blow your change how you want and I would love nothing more to have a 1m dollar lab on-site. Here in Cali I can’t test my own product as its a conflict of interest. I am going to have to guess how in-house testing of a product your trying to bring to market will not convince this forum. I kindly told you this in a DM as I was trying to help.
I am sure you are aware, your #1 and #2 hits on google are F4200. I think i understand what you are here to do and we are a tough bunch to fool. I hope you figure it out and grow your company to something successful.

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Sorry forgot this…

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You’re not acknowledging the steps we took to take care of our customers, make sure our inventory was clean, or acknowledging both our in house COA which is expensive and accurate, or the third party lab result that we also got. Look, I get it if you have a preferred provider, but as you’ve never even actually been a customer of ours, I’m surprised that you have so much insight into the quality of our products. I’ve even seen your posts on other threads here, about how you should always distill your gas because you did the math and realized that .1% out of 100 lbs is still quite a bit. So, why the constant attacks? let me know if you’d like to actually know what you’re talking about and I’ll look into sending you a bottle.

Oh - instead of GUESSING how we do our testing, you could just ask. I’m more than happy to answer any questions you might have, and I’d rather answer your questions than deal with your incorrect guesses, and subsequent fallout outrage from everyone who reads what someone comments and takes it as law, which seems to be common around here.

I’m not here to fool anybody, and I have never even tried to. I’ve been transparent, quick to take action when there were complaints, and fielded a lot of hatred from people who’ve honestly never even used our gas. It’s very odd to me.

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Anybody know what fitting this is from gas innovations? Is it just a cap that you take off? I don’t have the tank in front of me

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