Carts half full

I filled up carts and with in a couple days they’re all half full.I don’t know if this is the wick taken in some of the oil or if it’s just the oil settling. I plan on just refilling with raw distillate, it has a 5% cut with terpenes in the cart.

Would this cause any problems or not be worth since it wouldn’t be homogenized?

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Sounds like shitty carts to me… Filling hot they should go down so bc the oil expands when hot.

But halfway means your carts are blowing out

And yeah like @midsfactory said turn it upside after capping to cool helps.

What temp did u load?

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Did you turn upside down after capping?

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This is pretty common. Well, not 50% of your oil, but at least a little bit of settling is normal… If you filled the carts and they aren’t leaking, that means the oil is in there somewhere. You don’t want to overfill either, so idk if I would put more distillate in them.

How big are the intake holes? CCell (2.0mm) says up to 30% of the oil may flow through the intake holes, lowering the level of oil left in the tank. This is why people turn them upside down after capping, so the oil won’t flow through the intake holes while its still warm.

I know it looks bad being half full and will definitely be hard to sell like that, but it’s a pretty common thing.

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The other option is to not heat your oil to crazy temps while filling. Slow down the dispense process slightly, and reduce your temps. If you find temp reduction too slow for filling, N2 assist it :wink:

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^^ This guy knows what he’s talking about a lil bit :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

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Are y’all filling at 300f. Might explain halfway

Sorry u should have the smallest bubble. Even filled at 170f

I’ve filled 20-100 before capping, they only go down a tiny amount.

Halfway ,something is up!

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I just re-read that… Are you adding terps in the cart??

No you’re right. Halfway isn’t normal (I mentioned that in my comment). If you are seeing half your oil disappear, something’s not right. But seeing them drop 20-30% isn’t unheard of…
There are other contributing factors too tho like aperture size, potency, dilution % (terps)

But CCell will even tell you 30% of the oil flowing into intake holes is normal for their carts if you don’t cap them in one minute.

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Yea we fill oil off a hot plate and fill with just a 14 g blunt tip plastic syringe. Looks like I’m flipping carts lol appreciate the replies.

Btw I use th205 knock off ceramic if anybody has past experiences I’d love to hear

Yea floraplex flavor, 2 mm holes

I am going to guess you mean “yes” to you are adding the floraplex to the cart, and not mixing it with your oil prior to filling.

I may be wrong here, hopefully the community will correct me if I am…

That is just simply not going to work… Unless there is some in-cart mixing tek I am unaware of. Do you have a mag stir hotplate available?

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Oh no I meant just add raw distilate to the carts that already have the mixed oil in the cart.

And yes I do

That makes more sense… As ZizzleB said, flip your carts after filling / capping will help. I am a firm believer at filling at the lowest possible temp to get oil flowing, which will help quite a bit.

We had issues with our design in the beginning due to heating the oil too much prior to filling, and we saw quite a bit of settling. As soon as we switched from relying on temp to using temp/pressure the issue seemed to clear up entirely.

Cartridge design / quality plays a large factor as well. However flipping + reducing your temp should at least get you through this batch.

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Some carts are like this. IIRC even the liberty v9’s this would happen.

The half grams would fill up nicely and stay filled to the brim. The gram cartridges would sink and it would look like you only had 2/3rds of a cartridge worth. These were all measured shots so theres no way there wasn’t a full gram of liquid in them.

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I never heat my oil past 130f and keep my magnetic stirrer around 57-60c. I fill to the top and get absolutely space after capping and I do not have to turn my carts upside. I use authentic ccell Jupiter with the screw on mouthpiece. You are mostly likely filling to hot.

Been asking around today, and it seems to be a common occurrence to fill on the hotter end. Wondering what everyone is filling their oil at temp wise? Apparently the average is much higher than I anticipated.

We try to not go past 55/60c, but have to tune down our dispense speeds a bit to prevent bubble-over with narrow carts using thicker oil.

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He could just refrigerate his empties if it’s heat. I fill at boiling temps and I don’t have issues with wicking.

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“This is why people turn them upside down after capping, so the oil won’t flow through the intake holes while its still warm”

On that first pull, if the oil has to make it into the intake holes after you heat up the element, who prefers that very first pull of a new cart not to be tasty?

I dont recommend freezing but refridgersting/cooling seems helpful. If too cold it can congeal quickly and create air bubble at the bottom overflowing the cart alittle (depending on the method used to inject.)

Even if you fill at a lower temp the carts will still settle if they sit too long. Higher terp distillate and winterized oils will self prime faster then lower terp distillate. If you dont mind the extra loss it only takes about a .015-.025g dot of extra oil to offset the priming the look difference is alot more them youd think. If your carts are going to sit for over a month they will most likely self prime.

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