No those are taken directly out of our CO2 machine
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WOW! that’s incredible!!!
Mine come out a tad thicker and more coloured. That looks real nice. I might need even lower temp/pressure I guess…
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I’ve actually seen them even clearer! I saw a talk where a guy from Olala, the cannabis beverage company, gave a talk with his subcritical conditions listed. I didn’t write them down because slides were going to be available. He blacked out his method in the slides. I was so pissed.
https://enjoyolala.com/about-olala/
Reach out? Maybe he’ll help.
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Straight out of our CO2 extraction machine. Randy at Olala does some good work, but he’s not the only one making bomb terps up here in WA.
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Which machine do you have sauce boss
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As I understand If you collect lot of terpenes from even the same strain the composition going to have a significant “error rate” between ingredients larger the batch, that cannot be corrected, or wont be economical to correct it ever. Am I wrong? How do you correct it to get the almost real profile out of it?
The only way to know its from cannabis that it has more terpenes not just like 10? Can it be proven that its came from cannabis conclusively?
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How do you get it out so nice??? I would drink those they look so non viscous
We always say we would wear them as cologne
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We use an Eden Labs 5L2K and 20L2K. The yields arent huge on those terps (usually around 1% if they are that clear) but if we don’t need them crystal clear we can get more like a 1-3% yield. And they smell EXACTLY like the input material.
I’ll see if I can find it, but we had some terpene analysis done on a batch of flower pre extraction, and then on the terps afterwards and you can literally overlay the graphs on top of each other and not tell, the ratios of terpenes present is identical (just higher concentration).
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Our results are practically identical to you sauce boss
We have the isolate extraction systems 40 L botanical extractor
Our terpene runs are always between 1 and 2.2% is a high
And are terpene extracts always smell exactly like the biomass were extracting from
Our highest quality most potent batches so far have been from the sunshine 4 extraction, Girl Scout cookies extraction, some GG4 , and a GMO extraction.
I’ve read here a little bit about steam distilled terps smelling crappy for a while but I’ve never done a steam extraction myself I’ve only bought other hemp terps from other people i’ve read here a little bit about steam distilled turbines smelling crappy for a while but I’ve never done one myself.
Most of them were shit and I wouldn’t ever use them except one source that I found out of Oregon had really great terps
At this point we’ve just been using those terps instead of any cutting agent whatsoever because they are affordable and add so much quality to the final product
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If you have the machinery to extract them, real cannabis terpenes cannot be beaten as an additive to a winterized or distilled oil product. I like using some of our cloudier terpenes sometimes if we have a distillate that is just straight THC, because it will have a higher concentration of the secondary cannabinoid profile of the original flower as well as the terps, which really contributes to the effect the product has. Plus, doesn’t matter if it looks a tiny bit cloudy post mixing in the bulk jar, you can’t tell the difference once it is carted up.
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Guys, come on. If you’re using smell only to judge the “terps” you’re only halfway there. Get a GC-MS of your product and go from there. There are NO flavor elements that you want in a vaporizer that are amber colored.
Now if you’re not worried about the other compounds since you’re putting them back into your CO2 oil, that’s another thing entirely. But your terps are not a pure “essential oil”.
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There are certain terpenes and potentially other flavor compounds (that I have not identified but are known in the original plant) that are found in unique ratios. Those compounds (in the correct ratio) are not commercially available.
Every pipette jockey with a GC-MS knows this and I’ve seen no effort on their part to do anything about it. So you just have to look for that fingerprint and you know it’s s fake profile.
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Sorry, I might have missed something, but can you elaborate on what you mean by “terps are not a pure “essential oil””?
Is that due to the washy definition of an “essential oil”?
If you read one of my earlier posts you will notice that I mention we do get GC analysis on our extracts and flower for terpenes. Using comparative flower and extract gc chromatograms is one of my main marketing tactics when discussing why co2 extracted terps are so great with consumers.
And yeah, I don’t claim that my terps are 100% pure, again they have some cannabinoid content along with plenty of other plant compounds. I think that makes for a better additive to a distillate anyways if you want it to give you more than a THC head smack.
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I see… I don’t mean to jump in the middle of things, but is there really even a scientific definition of “essential oil”? Isn’t that term just a marketing term anyways?
Based off the wiki definition, which is the best I can find currently(sorry not sorry) " An essential oil is a concentrated hydrophobic liquid containing volatile (easily evaporated at normal temperatures) chemical compounds from plants."
so what exactly is a “pure” essential oil, I guess. Or is there even such a thing?
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basically, there’s some stuff in essential oils that you don’t really want to inhale. Not all volatiles on plants are good for you. Some can be dangerous, to be honest. Ethyl Acetate is common in some essential oils and is a solvent used to remove caffeine from coffee.
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Well, point being, that it seems to me that “pure essential oil” seems to be a contradiction in itself, at least based off the colloquial definition of the words “essential oils”.
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This explains the difference in terminology, between EO, absolutes and CO2s.
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This is very true. The molecules themselves may not be different, but the specific mixture and ratios they come in might very well still be hard to replicate for that 100% authentic natural taste.