The volatile oil, it’s essential oil, of cannabis is made up of terpenes as well as non-terpene elements that contribute/modify its odor/taste.
It’s harder to do than lemons and lavender.
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Yep. Volatile compounds is the key word. I think someone suggested butane thiol was the source of the skunk smell. Whether correct or not, this would be an example of a non-terpene volatile that could contribute to the smell at ppm levels.
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It should be in the ppm range in cannabis, acetone too, there are a number of other “solvents” that are confirmed present.
Does anyone have an RSA of flower that they can share?
“Essential oils are the volatile, aromatic, non-water soluble liquids obtained by steam or hydrodistillation of botanicals.”
"Most essential oils are primarily composed of terpenes and their oxygenated derivatives. "
"Other aromatic, plant-derived oils, which technically aren’t essential oils because they are solvent extracted, include absolutes (hexane followed by ethanol extraction), CO2’s (liquid carbon dioxide used as the solvent) and Phytols or Florosols (fluorocarbon solvent). Its very important to understand the fundamental difference between a solvent extraction process and a distillation process, they are not the same thing. This is why one should absolutely NEVER say that essential oils are “extracted by steam distillation” as this is a nonsensical statement. "
This is from the Frequently Asked Questions - Essential Oil University (EOU)
Seems odd to include extraction method in the definition, as an isolated substance is and isolated substance, although we aren’t talking isolates, so maybe there is a reason. I know the different extraction methods can produce different results, but it’s odd to me that the bulk of the definition is focused on extraction method rather than a chemical definition.
Is this something like hash vs shatter? where both are technically the same thing(cannabis concentrate) while still being different due to extraction method?
That is just not true. It is possible to isolate terpenes to some degree but it is never 100%, and the parts that are not that exact terpene is probably because it is bonded to something else, thus not the same, not to mention that there are many forms of terpenes including different isomers and oxides. That said, this thinking tends to overlook the compounds that actually create the strongest smells (uniqueness) for the ones of the highest weight/volume (standardized plant model).
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As well as an additive in many of the flavoured botanical terp mixes (the ones with non terpene flavouring added)
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What price point do you need to hit
You could freeze dry also, I believe.
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Do you mind sharing the cannabinoid content of these co2 terp extracts? I’m curious what the percentages roughly would be.
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OK the percentages that I’ve gotten from potency tests show a residual range between one and 4% THC left in the Terpene
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If anyone has some real canna terps they want to sell, please PM me. @betroit where you at?!
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So, I was lucky enough to get a nice array of terps from @betroit and @colombiabeneficial and am VERY happy with both.
CBs are from suver haze hemp, steam distilled, and came with complete labs. Very nice stuff and priced extremely well. I’ve been using them in cart formulations and have been happy with the extra depth they add to the flavor and effects. Really tough to beat the value here.
Betroits terps are on another level, no offense to CB. They’re also significantly more expensive. They’re also all cannabis derived, except for the elektra, so perhaps not entirely fair to compare the two.
But wow, they are fuckin fire. Just pure essense of the strains - girl scout cookies, GMO, tangie, OG Kush, Sherbet. 11/10 would buy again. Stank the entire house up when I opened the package. I expect these will be very well received with the new carts I’m making.
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Aroma notes from the suver haze? How would you describe it’s smells and flavours?
Grinning from ear to ear. Thanks for the kind words brother!
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Definitely has that distinct hazy aroma, with a sweet sugary edge and kinda generic grassy cannabis mixed in. It’s very nice stuff.
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I think @Betroit has demonstrated what I’ve been saying all along. I took a GC of a gg4 sample he sent me. It’s a full, balanced profile. Unlike some crap I’ve seen here from trim or bad technique (if you see nothing but monoterpenes and you claim to be representing the fullness of a chemovar you don’t know what you’re doing).
We know steam still are meh. We like the essential oils that dank! That’s why I laugh about getting pulled over when I’m driving. I’m will be accused of making the most potent liquid weed ever seen.
@Betroit you want me to post the trace?
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Yea man,! Freaking awesome bro
Thanks so much for the guidance and support
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Lmao dude one of the earlier posts said they use gas chromatography for terpene analysis and can literally overlay the chromatogram of the oil over the flower peaks and see the same ratios, just more peak area and height for the oil peaks
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It’s definitely possible. Just not obvious to make them taste like the flower and look like the flower on a GC trace. And I’d love to see what they included beyond the EO range.
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