This. If anything, the fault is in the marketing which made it seem like they had more control over what was in the tanks.
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Oh i think they knew about this way before the extractors did. If your really knowledgeable about your product your gonna see if methanol and other new compounds are showing up in your products.
but hey tank cleaning will eliminate all this, right???
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yes, you will have to know alot more about the gas industry to convince me that every coa for the last 18 months wasnât a blatant lie.
maybe chill on the cheerleading for a bit since you obviously have a financial interest on how your âfriendsâ look. maybe you didnât read the part about you having a conflict of interest and you should recuse yourself from being involved with anything but concrete solutions, your PR and attempted damage control is not doing anyone suffering from this any favors.
Shoot. I would be surprised and disappointed to find out that the suppliers knew what the problem was and didnât say a thing. Ugh. That would be a knife in the heart. It was frustrating enough to keep hearing from them that there was no issue . . . that was a fatiguing message . . . but that they played doe-eyed and innocent while knowing exactly what the issue was? That would be terrible to discover.
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But extractors were testing the gas, and no one saw anything. Do you think the solvent suppliers saw the methanol and then produced false test reports?
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so when a tank of butane is 99.6% pure, YOU dont think knowing what the other .4% is important??
You dont think examining the product your selling is important? you dont think quality control is important?? What type of quality control do you think gas sellers should be performing? How do you know gas is good or bad???
YES, from the bottom of my heart think all the gas suppliers knew this problem from the first month it was discovered. IF NOT, they are very incompetent and probably shouldnt be in the business of selling EXPLOSIVE GAS to others.
choose one?
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you schilling for the gas folks is pretty gross when their chicanery affects all these extractors that feed your kids.
salespeople sell i guess
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that is schilling? OK, I guess. If these allegations are true, no amount of sales lady schill energy is going to save them, nor should it.
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I edited that for you. We are back to @Graywolf and mystery oil. You canât know if the gas is contaminated, the tanks are clean etc. You canât know so you distill and filter (or water wash or best practice). Especially if these businesses are as unscrupulous as you say, you canât count on them to keep the solvent clean.
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except this isnt a mystery is it??? it was EASILY QUANTIFYABLE when looked for.
The extractors were believing the sales person when they said their gas was medical grade or better. They believed the COAs that they were getting from the supplier were correct and THE SELLER did their due diligence.
But you keep giving them a pass. Do you not remember how hey were all pointing fingers about dirty coffee cups and stuff like that. I do business with most of these gas companies and i have no problem believing they ARE THE SOURCE of this problem and have from day 1 and knew about it!!!
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Mystrery oil was quantifiable did you not see the tests he had done in 2013-14? the mystery oil was composed of 1xx different things that even if you read you wouldnt know what it was. Most this message not directed at youâŚ
Other extractors were using the same salesmenâs gas and never experienced medusa stones. Theres many distros and labs you can call in cali that have never experienced medusa stones. My buddy used to work at @johnbigoilco , you may remember him John. Name was Alex last name started with a F. he experienced these medusa stones first hand at that facility for a while before he was laid off(I know his work ethic not blasting the company.)
Call him up and ask him if he ever saw medusa stones with me at blue gill co in california city shortly after using the same gas supplier.
yall stretching so hard for something that doesnt seem to affect 90% of the market. Extracts have continously crashed in prices HARD out here, you think that happened cause everyones gas was contaminated and no one could make high quality diamonds?
Holler at Coachella manufacturing or Thinc Cubed in coachella valley as well, 1 lab relocated and upgraded there facility and the other is in the process of doing the same. Medusa stones are not gas induced id say change my mind but several faciltiies here have proven to me you cant
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These are licensed facilties you can google and find or i can share there managers phone numbers, Shit black market uses nastier gases and still got prettier diamonds than rec heads with all the nifty tools and ish. I crash diamonds in C1d1s on purpose and track temperatures(as it always varies according to your weather), diamonds(thca precipitates) form so incredibly different with every 5-10 degree F change in temperature.
No one considers humidity as a factor for producing diamonds either
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Also just wanted to state that the source that made these 2 meet was a gas seller, what next are we gonna listen to pharmacetical companies studies to determine if the product they are gonna profit off is harmful in any matter? Cause companies/people finanically motivated dont skew results in their favor.
The funniest part is the person who started this post also stated he can shorten flowering time of 65 day strains to 45-50 days because of his feeding regiment. This sites hilarious, we should all stop growing weed no point of competing if he can flower the same kind of product in 2/3rds the time 
Alex was a good kid that unfortunately was a bit lazy during his short stay with us. Why are you upset there are some of us that are working to solve an issue that 100% is the gas. I will go to the grave with it being the gas. There is no way that I could extract the same way for 6 years and then all of a sudden no matter what my old sop will not work.
If you dont understand you can control length of flowering times by not only feeding regemennts, light spectrum, light schedule. Run the same strain indoor then run in a gh. The gh finishes first always.
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You can harvest 8 week strains in 5 weeks in a greenhouse? You can most definately shorten flowering perioids but if i recall correctly he said he shortened em somewhere between 21-25 days. Also never stated anything about lighting. It was exclusively done thru feeding ill find the post and copy paste
Im not upset at yall trying to solve an issue im just amazed at how outlandish/biased some peoples anwerrs can be and itll still be gobbled up.
Im not even aware of the post you are referencing. (saw the post halfway through writing) Im just telling you my experiences in growing. Light both spectrum and time can change flowering times. I had a strain that was 38-42 days in a gh and 56 days in my indoor. Made me a killing for many years as I was able to get 8 harvests a year in my small ass lil gh in the heart of the SFV.
I have a friend that uses the same gas as me, they Never had the medusa stones but they had fast crash issues up the ass. We have stated many times on this forum that if you try and make diamonds at anything below 78ish degrees they will medusa. This other lab always ran straight into a hot oven. That was their tech ours was 50-60f rooms and we would heat them up to 90 if they had some sugar forming. I just want to be able to make diamonds like I used to.
Hey if those are his pics at day 40 im gonna believe him. Ive met Duke many times now and I consider him a friend. Dudes a great grower and has been growing for a long time.
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That was indoors not greenhouse, he shortened the cycle using the same lighting as everyone else. I guess his feeding regiment was just that great
I made clear diamonds around 50 degrees, get under 43ish and your gonna have problems, anything under 78 will medusa is quite the stretch, also wouldnt quanitity of solvent to solute in the âmixâ have some relevancy to temperatures and âmedusaingâ
I think the reason for the backlash against the gas companies is because of the heavy marketing that can be summed up as âdonât worry, weâre not just middlemen, weâre one of YOU GUYYYYSSSSâ and then come to find out they are just middlemen trying to move as much gas as possible.
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You recall incorrectly I said shave two weeks off and I prefer most stuff very ripe. Crop steering absolutely can shorten flowering time 
go read my grow log if you want I posted an entire run rofl
You can question my lab experience all you want but I earned my respect here as a grower before I ever posted a single dab lol.
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