distillation at different temps is used to fraction all types of things, im sure you could fraction out methanol at the right temp. maybe if i talk like a dueche bag fake scientist youll better understand my point. how much $ for the stainless thermometer?
Solvent direct is a distributor for Carbon Chemistry. As are many other vendors on this site. My motivation isnât financial, I have personal relationships with people. There is no grand conspiracy here, I am a pretty loyal friend and I give people the benefit of the doubt. If Lex did shady shit, that will be on him and I wonât apologize for him. However, as a friend, until I know that, I am going to continue to be his friend. There is no financial reason, I am just an optimistic friend that leads with hope that they are acting like the fine, upstanding people I know them to be.
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Fraction with the aid of your filteration in line, while boiling your solvents.
The filteration stage aids in the fractioning of your gaseous compounds.
Just like packing material in a fractional distillation column.
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Perhaps the disconnect is the concentration: at 0.1-0.01% MeOH distillation simply wonât cut it
Maybe if you used units on your temperatures youâd be more likely to correctly interpret
Folks distilling their gas as you suggested have not found it to solve the problem. That has been documented repeatedly.
Just because youâre being asked to think critically doesnât mean anyone is attempting to criticize you.
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asking c or f isnt asking for critical thinking, and noone recovers at 90c so youre either dumb for asking or just trying to look smart IMO
noone really recovers colder than 90f either i dont believe so trying to âdistillâ as in recover the tane colder than the boiling point of methanol is a pretty good idea IMO
then again i didnt go to college, i just make hash in the woods.
what exactly is the practical solution offered here anyway? more powders in more columns?
Many of us do. If it werenât for the problem at hand, Iâd recover at 25c, vs closer to 30c (29.4c to be exact).
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Sorry to be annoying and repeat myself, but has anyone had this issue with other gas not from solvent direct?
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Yes itâs all gas pretty much.
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no lab in maine does thats for sure, most well over 90f. colders good forpreserving terps but bad for time spent recovering. 25c still pulling that methanol i believe then no?
No man itâs just in the stuff from solvent directâŚ
they use methanol and diethanolamine to clean their coffee cupsâŚ
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Yep. Certainly seems that way. At the level of contamination weâre seeing it appears to build up in the system too.
Drive your boiler at 5C, and you might notice when your 50lb of butane had left 23g (~28ml) of mostly methanol (1000ppm). If you ran a pump, you might not even catch that.
Asking you to think critically:
Units?
Boiling point of constituents?
Relative concentrations?
You can be right, or you can learn. Love being wrong. Means I learned something new. Although these days it seems to mean âlearned something AGAINâ more often than Iâd like to admit.
Be safe.
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Youâre looking further up the chain than that. These companies are mainly resellers for packaging companies that distribute from the refineries who processed crude they get from the big boys or I would assume most are vertical operations, but definitely the packagers and resellers do not refine.
The packaging plant would probably be the most reliable last âchain of custodyâ provider for the COA. What the reseller can do is declare conformity like in blends for example 70/30, this would mainly just be for letterhead purposes. The packager or reseller can declare that there is 70% of one thing and a Balance of the other, of which each component within that cylinder has a traceable COA back to the packager, not the packagerâs supplier who seems to only do ASTM 2163, or possibly a couple of other standards for analysis, but either way it doesnât appear that they look for amines, or certainly in any trace they deem worth having a threshold that our industry would benefit fromâŚspecificallyâŚand its not like they knew.
Ultimately responsibility will rest on the shoulders of the customer who used the solvent and declared it was okay to do so, it passed their internal quality assurance, and was vetted into use⌠by the customer.
I will say, I did witness a lot of letterhead cut and pastes of COAâs from providers in our industry. Weâve bought from a couple of them throughout the years, and are just as victim to the same rhetoric as others have experienced.
No, the answer to your question could possibly be; think about Methanol, and ways to remove it⌠especially inline a CLS
I could think of a million other uses, your suggestion is considerate though, thank you.
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one known remediation tactic is to raise your pour temperature.âŚ
Harder to achieve without a probe in your puddle.
Adapter shown allows that add to most 1/2â compression style evaporators.
@Rondhombus probe was about $15 on Amazon. The two fittings were about $75, the machine and weld another $50. I had four of them made. the machining on the first one I did myself.
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I get what you are saying in theory but none of that holds water when your job is to play nice with them and sell them more stuff.
Probably not a good look to hop in here and defend them when you posted the solvent direct blog on your socials as a way to market for them and drive people to their site that carries the products you are a sales director for.
conflict of interest like that usually means recuse yourself for ethical people friends or not. You donât see the other distributors for them defending them as they know it would be a bad look for their credibility
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I love this. Very well said and I wholeheartedly agree
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Preach brotherâŚ
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If I havenât been clear over the last decade, let me state for the record: I 100% support my family and pay my bills with cannabis and psychedelics money. For 12+ years now, I have been actively working as a salesperson to extractors. My children eat what extractors put on my table.
I am passionately an advocate for this industry and the people who make it work both in the lab and supporting ancillary companies. I am absolutely biased in favor of extractors and colleagues who serve them. You may not like me or my vibe or how I roll, but it is going to be hard to make the case that I am somehow anti this industry.
If it is a bad look for me say something nice about a friend, I hope that only reflects poorly on me and not my employer. I appreciate both what you and @CallipygianDabs are saying. What I know for sure is that the truth will be brought to light and people will have an opportunity to use that information to decide where to spend their dollars in the future. The same way you see me here and on insta and make conclusions about whether or not you would want to do business with me, people will make those conclusions about @GasLogix-Adam and the Solvent Direct team. I am just as interested in the gas suppliers that being very quiet right now. To me, messaging about thisâeven clumsilyâis better than continuing to pretend it isnât happening or it is the extractorsâ error.
It is all information and I want extractors to have all of the information they can. That, my friend and fellow user, is the reason this place got launched to begin with.
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Seems they are all being very quiet right now. None have taken responsibility for their actions. Still just pointing fingers at the other.
Can you show me one that has admitted contributing to this problem??
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Can you tell me more about what you mean by that? As in, you think they were intentionally contaminating the gas? Lying about tests?
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the gas guys are just middlemen, its like complaining to a car salesman about exploding gas tanks or safety recalls. they donât work for the mfg or have anything to do with the production of the product, they just sell the shit. And they probably know as much about it as a car salesman knows about engineering a safe automobile
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