does noone else measure their butane cannabinoid content? columns dont need to be a guessing game.
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What are you using?
We have an arometrix device, but still need to get power to itā¦not holding my breath (based on previous experience)
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custom 2 color spectroscopy sensor and a flat surface sightglass
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If passive is what youāre after, ETS has their new falling-film they have started selling. It was the last thing I helped design before the buy out. I can tell you myself and Murphy have tons of hours running it and it is a simple yet badass evaporator.
Pair that with a material column rack, filtration, tanks, and you have yourself an american built passive machine that can recover up to 10lbs/min depending on chiller setup.
Hard to beat ETSā customer service, parts and components inventory and overall quality. I may be a bit biased though lol.
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I donāt regret the Bizzybee, the system is hard to find a flaw with.
I got all the upgrade options except crc.
After sale support has been phenomenal, the owners manual is actually very good and well written, I met the whole crew in Washington including Boris and his son, I have nothing bad to say about them or their professionalism.
But back to the system, it rocks!
Once my ultralow chiller gets here its going to be even better, personally I donāt see how ets even compares to the quality you get from bizzybee.
If people didnāt hate boris it would be a no Brainer, I set all that aside and went to see the equipment run because you can see the quality in photos, and at bizcon last year I saw nothing that made me drool as much as the bizzy sitting there. Swagelok everything, swaggers donāt leak, least mine never have.
Every hose is static dissapative swagelok
The welds are all 10/10
The rack is sturdy and well built, easy to add columns to.
The system operates efficiently, youāll find the options endlessly allow you to do whatever you want, even recovery while injecting, it comes with tools, socks and filter plates, a baller swagelok nitrogen regulator and extra hoses and a couple qc elbow fittings.
I recommend their optional venturi vacuum pump, its far superior to the cole parmer.
Electropassive is a must have.
The price sucks, but this one has already paid itself off in a few short months, so itās been worth it and Iām still extremely satisfied.
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Noted! Thank you for saying something.
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I learned about it during my trip there, its alot faster and it comes setup for the qc hoses and fittings on the system, its also all SS
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Haha. It just looks like him. That kid is his daughter friend.
And we already spoke that that venturi doesnāt pull a deep enough vacuum, didnāt we? Which is also why I run their equipment faster than they do, at lower temps. Cole Parmer also makes several models with varying rates of cfm. I just prefer the one I use because more than that isnāt needed.
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David
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He does look just like him I was convincedā¦
I have the cole parmer the one that pulls lower is less cfm, and the extra time it takes to pull the system down I could do part of another run, I barely even need it with the heat exchanger from what I have seenā¦
And using it to vent nitrogen is about 3 times faster.
Iām open ears to your opinion on these systems though, you have far more experience with one than I do so my opinion is less educated.
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I donāt pull vacuum on the entire system at once. Only chamber by chamber. Even an Edwardās 30 would take a min.
It never gave me that big of a problem and Iām an impatient bastard. I also use an air compressor, as youāre supposed to, not my nitrogen tank. Which you can also turn up the pressure, just like you do with the nitrogen, to pull faster and harder.
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I will admit, my compressor wasnāt quite sufficient for the cole, I tried it with nitrogen, but the ergonomics of the airvacs one setup for the bizzy is quite nice and itās better for me for using nitrogen and the supplied qc hoses.
So instead of upgrading my compressor I opted to go the nitrogen routeā¦
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I honestly just canāt believe people are considering any other unit than something from @IlluminatedExtractor. What they are doing with their cooling is bound to save you tons of money over time, and a faster ROI. But again, just my opinion
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If it ran on strictly Normal Butane, Iād consider it. But, if Iām correct (Iām welcome to being wrong) it needs propane to get the colder temperatures it claims. It also would take up too much space in my booth. And pumps make noise.
Personal opinion
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No you are correct, and I believe 100% it has to be on propane. I believe theyāre experimenting with running a blend or extracting with straight butane, but Iām not 100% on that
Iām just really sold on that cooling system! A lot better and moderately less dangerous than liquid CO2. But again this just my opinion
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Iāll show you how using lc02 works sometime. IE wasnāt using it correctly. It being in liquid form for cooling is extremely inefficient. The IE could use the standard cooling method to prechill the column, evacuate the propane and then fill/chill with lc02, that would make it more efficient
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Oh Iām not debating you, believe you me! Iām just impressed with their system is really what itās about
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The jackets run on propane the system can run whatever blend you want.
Two compressors - one utility (lowest BP desired), one process (your desired blend)
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Iām impressed by them, too. Just doesnāt mean that they are ideal for my application. I would have to stress test one in person to see if it actually works for meā¦
@anon45638961 coming from a guy who thoroughly enjoys the silence in a booth. One would have to do a lot of convincing to get me to place one, let alone two compressors, in my workspace. Regardless of how quiet you guys say they are. If thereās anything in the booth that makes me have to talk over it, itās too loud. Personally.
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Yes, so up North because the federal government wishes to tax us to death on everything; there is a vast price compression across all fronts mixed with a sprinkle of good ol inflation affecting the market/industry.
A lot of licensed facilities are both hard pressed for more sq ft (who isnt) and panel space/utility capacity, the IE is excellent for expanding or new operations who want to keep the opex as low as possible, its less than half the cost of most systems, you can notice comparable opex probably when you start talking about CO2 jacketsā¦ but we can only have so many registered designs up here, too many iterations and the OEMās arenāt interested in submitting them all too see which ones sell so its hard to even get a CO2 cooled system thatās engineer sealed at least in Canada.
Everyone has their use caseās and specific needs; to each their own.
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