Best cutting agent for the carts

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I hate to say it but Im going to have to most likely start cutting my carts. Im currently using only distillate and terps (90% oil and 10%) however the price point for carts has gotten lower and lower and it is getting extremely hard to compete. As I have to buy distillate and don’t manufacturer it myself I’m being hugely undercut. The price point right now for a 1ml cart is about $12-14 to wholesalers and $8-9 for .5ml. we are having issues with clogging that is also a factor for us and unfortunately I have another 200k carts coming so I cant change the hardware. I can’t not fulfil this cart order and now I need to make sure I can still complete it.
I have read some topics on this forum about pg,vg,mct and I’m just looking to see if there any addives or cuts that are better or healthier than any other. I have read depending on the chain of mct some can be better than others. I have also seen some studies with monkeys that showed little or no change using pg . Any help is greatly appreciated.

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#2

From my research USP MCT is the best cutter for disty.

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#3

MCT oil man… far superior to PG or VG. Cheap too.

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#4

Mct is where im headed I really have disliked pg and vg and I have been left with headaces and a coating on my tongue and throat from using them. With regards to mct have you tried different chains c6,c8,c10,c12 or do you just buy which ever one is available ? What are your ratios of oil,terps,mct. I would expect my terps ratio to increase if I’m using mct.

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#5

Thank you for your quick response. I will check it out. What ratio do you use.

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#6

I would look into abstrax TEC Temper. I believe it is a triethyl citrate base with some non-scented terpens in there. Any one know if you could achieve the same goal by just using triethyl citrate? 500g of TEC temper is $598 and the same volume of just triethyl citrate is about $50 from perfumers apprentice. Is it sketchy using this and is there a point where you would be using too much?

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#7

agree with square roots if you must use a cut MCT imo

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#8

Also dependent on what brand type components and hole size of cartridge you are using. 2.0mm hole ccell ive had great luck with just terps and distillate as you mentioned.

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#9

I find that even ccell’s can clog if using a pen style battery w/o a button, thick distillate and very little cut (like 4%). Untwisting the battery a little can help pop the bubble causing the clog. I find that ccells recover better from clogging and don’t immediately clog again (like OCityTimes). These issues only seem to happen when the oil gets close to or below the holes.

I have always found that re-adding botanical terps makes the vape pen harsh, but customers seem to dig it.

:man_shrugging:

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#10

The only USP certified MCT I’ve found are c8 and c10 blends typically 70 30 or 60 40

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#11

i agree with levitated ccells seem to work better with pens with a button. 90/10-93/7 seems to work best for me in ccell. Ive even gone as much as 85/15 in ccell with no issues.

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#12

@Ogcarts MCT is pretty rough on your body since its a lipid.

True terpenes Viscosity is the way to go because its made from 100% odorless, flavorless terpenes. You don’t have to say you’ve cut your cart with other additives because you’re just adding terpenes into it. I love the stuff and True Terpenes is a super reputable company, i’m constantly recommending their stuff.

I saw that if you are a part of the @goodlifegang you get a discount on every True Terpenes purchase as well, and then theres a pot that accumulates for a $250 giveaway.

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#13

are you affiliated with true terpenes i’ve seen you mention them a lot

@Audra

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#14

doubt im going to get a response to that one

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#15

Seems like a close match to the picture. Lmao. No wonder why your pointing people to that stuff.

“I saw that if you are a part of the @goodlifegang you get a discount on every True Terpenes purchase as well, and then theres a pot that accumulates for a $250 giveaway.”

You would think that being the VP of a company that you would know your companies policies rather than making it like a suggestion. This is pretty deceptive.

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#17

Yes, I work for True Terpenes. I wouldn’t ignore or deny any question asking me so.

I was a longtime customer of True Terpenes and would suggest them to every one of my clients when I owned my manufacturing and co-packing facility. This is how I found out about them as well, from an endorsement by Samantha, the founder and chief scientist of Pure Analytics (whom I highly respect). This is why I work for them, because I loved their products so much and believed in them; I went straight to them once I moved on from my facility.

I am an active member of this forum with cartridge formulation expertise, therefore I post in mostly cartridge formulation related posts given thats where I feel I can contribute the best to this community. I don’t just spam True Terpenes, I offer genuine advice/opinion/knowledge and I do link to other items as well, such as this post advising someone on how to formulate at home. -> Dab Cart Tips
or this post about the 100L a week script ->The “100 liter a week” script

I do post about True Terpenes a lot, but honestly even if I didn’t work for them I’d still be suggesting them. They are what worked best for me from customer service, certificates of analysis, to actual product. I also cringe at suggestions of cutting things with MCT because it is simply not good to add to oil when there are alternatives out there.

I do admit I got lazy with this last post and didn’t go into my normal rant about “lipid pneumonia” and the dangers of MCT and for that I apologize. And for that you called me out. Completely understandable, heard and noted. I will do better next time. I will not, however, stop posting about True Terpenes because thats what I would do regardless of my affiliation with them. I will continue to give genuine advice to this community via the channels of my expertise and related posts.

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#18

@Future can we have a dedicated place for carts ?

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#19

Also…good job on Waynes world. @Tom

(Also, if I was trying to be sneaky, I wouldn’t have my real name and identical photo on my profile.)

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#20

What are the names of the flavorless and odorless terpeness used in this product and how are these normally derived or synthesized?

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