Taste Description: Fresh green vegetative, with celery and hay nuances and somewhat fatty and tropical fruity afternotes Odor Description: Woody, green vegetative with a hint of a floral nuance. It has a slight gin herbal and citrus dry out
CAS # 502-61-4 FEMA # 3839
THey had fenchol listed next to it but they had a more broad description for this one.
Also you can make your own flavors instead of being forced to buy from a overpriced terp company who will sell the same flavor to your competitors thus leaving you with nothing diff and you better pray your marketing is god like if your going to compete in a flooded market with the same product :).
Ive been buying terps/esters and such for 10 cents a gram since 2013 when iwas making nicotine vapes. Do a lil trial and error i promise yall will have a lot of fun doing so.
Sites like that are a good place to start for a very general introduction to flavor and fragrance ingredients but in the grand scheme of things that is all very elementary. Itâs a useful resource for aspiring perfumers/hobbyists but if your goal is to better understand cannabis essential oils (âterpenesâ) then you simply need to partner with a lab for analytics. Otherwise youâre going to be focused on learning the entirely wrong materials, like (E,E)-alpha-Farnesene. You wouldnât understand the scope of this level of testing if you donât have any firsthand experience.
The big question is, can all these be extracted through the trichome head using just ice and water because my guess is, no. I would guess to extract it all you need a hydrocarbon?
@Baked-All-Day I actually think it is the opposite. I think poor solubility in hydrocarbons of a few key compounds are responsible for the incredible depth of aroma that solventless extracts can have that butane extracts are almost always missing.
I assume you are comparing fresh frozen extracted with hydrocarbons not dried?
Do you think using straight butane leaves out some good stuff that propane grabs? I think so but I am sure you are way more educated on this than me.
Do you run a blend or switch to straight butane like Dred?
Your telling me what im sharing is elementary when you tried stating a ether needs a hydroxyl group? When a simple google search will show you otherwise? Seems to me like you are just another canna taxer, whos just reselling others work. Do you make these esters and terps and such yourself like the perfumer apprentice? Cause if you make over 1,000 and have them all test in the lab grade range pest free than im listening but considering you didnt even know what a ester truly was im going to go ahead and say no for you.
For âaspiring prefumers/hobbyistsâ This guy trying to down play a whale you probly buy/are resold product from. you realize how many big players t hat make billions a year buy their products to FLAVOR Drinks, Foods, Nicotine/thc Vapes, Scent beauty products, candles from them? Alot of other products too but im sure a canna taxer who only sells terps for vapes wouldnt know better. Your down playing a player who has decades of experience of sales on you and actually producers and tests their own products.
L O L, you dont even understand what an ester is composed of but testing isnt a difficulty for you. . Tell me when you tested with first hand experience and saw that no esters had NO hydroxyl groups in them why did u tell us this.
When I called tfa in 2018, the person who answered didnât know what ratios to mix their terp based flavors answered me. She transferred me to her son. Who also didnât know what ratios to use. When pressed about the contents of their âflavored herbâ line, they were not secretive, but ignorant
As stated most their buisness came from perfumeries/food industry/beauty/ almost everything except vaping till nicotine vaping came out. They were selling Vitamin E acetate at a point as well but for its intended purpose in the beauty/health industry(not vaping). They even took it off their site once they learned unlike other companies trying to paint higher profits vs poisioning people. Its funny how the only 2 people who have said something negative towards them
ALSO SELL TERPS HMMMMMMM. At over 1000% markups i may add
You were originally asking Will about esters being âmade from terpenesâ (note the bold text to emphasize I was describing what is needed to form an ester, not what an ester is). To which I said yes,there are many esters that are derived from terpenes. Terpene alcohols having a hydroxyl group allows them to form esters, much like other alcohols do. You seem to be misinterpreting what everyone is saying and immediately jumping into a strawman argument with yourself.
Come to an event and introduce yourself sometime. Iâll show you some lab results firsthand thatâll leave you speechless. Those who have met me have seen I am happy to talk shop and back it up with data. Iâm just not looking to publicize years of hard work on a forum where the results can be circulated or used to take ownership of my findings.
No i think you are jsut not being clear with whats being stated this is your first time mentioning terpene ALCOHOLS ----- terpenes, alcohol, and terpene alcohols are different things. If you dont add that you are talking about a alcohol terpene how am i supposed to know so when you referenced regular terpenes. As a specialist you should know how vital of information that was that you left out. A simple admission of forgetting to add so goes a long way but youd like to state im grasping at straws so sure believe what you will the comments are there.
Why donât you share it here, If you have something that can indefinately prove me wrong and show to others reading why not do so here where more skepticism can be proven wrong? I have no need to go to most events, you have also avoided the question ----
Also are your tests from several 3rd parties or are your tests in house only?
Replying to clarify something that may be educational to other readers is one thing. Iâm not going to argue on the internet though. I donât think this is as important to me as it is to you. Be skeptical if thatâs what pleases you.
Itâs what is used to seal cigars. While tobacco has itâs own nasties, I wonder what the byproduct of burning gum arabic is. We always just used terpy BHO or disty to seal blunts.
Ya or the long term repercussions of smoking lots of it daily. I cannot guarantee that is what they do but I can tell you a spent a bunch of time trying to reverse engineer them. It was immediately apparent the kief was glued on somehow and of everything I tested the gum Arabic replicated it exactly. It even made it burn all slow and even like all the jeeters do. Idk but if it is an unlabeled adhesive in orders of magnitude higher quantity than anyone has ever smoked before that is kinda fucked.
. Tell me when you tested with first hand experience and saw that no esters had NO hydroxyl groups in them why did u tell us this.
