vivi novas sucked so bad though
the Kanger protank was the first atomizer i thought was worth half a damn.
man weâre gettin real nostalgic today 
Yeah the vivis were so coolâŚfor like a month. Those little bug-looking wick attys were ridiculous. I remember being so annoyed with those that that is why I got into punching carts. They also looked like a freaking fairy wand on the old ego click batteries lol.
I LOVED the protank series. I actually used the PT2 for about 3 years because I was poor and rebuilt the attys. 8 wraps for a 1.2 ohm.
lol the MVP2, a dorky ego/510 adapter and a PT2 was my daily driver for years lol.
These days its the Aegis Legend (because im clumsy) and whatever random tank the vape store guy talks me into each year. I swear I go back after a year and every timeâŚâoh they dont make coils for that anymoreâ I try to give them the âback in MY dayâ speeches and theyâre never amused lol.
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rebuilding protank coils lol
i did that and i could afford new coils. i just wasnât a sucker
i was happy about the pt2 cause the protank 1 had glue, and a shitty chinesium base
lol for real, they were honestly so easy to rebuild that even after becoming not poor I couldnât justify buying them.
Then rebuildable Subtank mini came out and I stanned that for a few years until I just got sick of tinkering. These days I try to make it less of a hobby as I really need to quit before im a damn âlong-term vaping causes super cancerâ test case lol
i quit vaping a while ago via nicotine pouches
What in the fuck is going on here?
@Rowan Are you asking for my insight on the conundrum of carts being designated âsingle useâ at the behest of the CDPH and the hazardous waste classification that we (my partner and the Center for Sustainability and Innovation and various other entities and policy influencers) have been battling with lobbyists and regulators?
Or my lifelong experience with ceramics and high fired porcelain manufacturing?
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The conundrum of single use carts
Uhm. Itâs a fucked situation. But sheâs making progress. Honestly she is more qualified to speak on it.
But in short anything that has come into contact with cannabis product is considered hazardous waste. That introduces a litany of different regulations and restrictions on handling and disposing of. Recycling is a nightmare bc of the overregulation.
But she has teamed up with someone responsible for legislation making prescription drug manufacturers responsible for end of life disposal of expired drugs to see what duties can be made obligatory for vape manufacturers.
She is also working with a company already collecting spent hardware and a handful top selling manufacturers/distributors who want to and are helping. Itâs hella complicated and I am no longer involved.
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Eventually I want to sell 0.5g ceramic reusable pre-filled carts with a 1.5g filled syringe. I feel like that would be a better solution than a 2g disposable device.
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industry standard my ass 
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Whatâs the ticket on these
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Ticket on what? Where?
The cheapest industry standard is about 2.3m
Anyone remember the 710 double barrel shotgun??
Lmao I was with loudpack when they launched that. So many failures and returns. Two flavors at once!!! So hype!!! Then the .3 or .5s disposable refills were fucking $50 each, hah syke.
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How did loudpack mix and fill? I was always curious
Ultra disposable.
Exactly! There will always be a cart community and a disposable community because some customers value the cheaper carts that they can use with their own battery. In contrast to the person who owns no smoking equipment and just goes to the dispo once a week to grab their 1g disposable and couldnât be bothered to save that 10-15$ with their own battery.
Its not about accepting that there is this divide. its about tipping this divide into the favor of what is more economical. We must not settle on what we already know or are taught. Settlement lies within what is truth and what we must know to survive and better each other.
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I can say I got a few of the 2g bb tank disposables to try out and it had clogging issues almost immediately like every other 2g disposable I have tried. I like the idea of less waste but the function is not there. Iâve tried a bunch of disposables trying to something I feel confident bringing to market. AVD sent me some new 1g disposables that are not on the market yet and they are the first disposable Iâve ever tried that I actually liked.
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Iâve also started seeing 2 chamber disposables. Like 2 1ml tanks in 1 with a switch at the bottom where you can switch which tank youâre hitting from.
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