Secret of the century, he sells homogenizing equipment
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truth. I mix my own ejuice and Iāve never once seen VG and PG separate. I mix a shit load and generally have bottles sitting untouched for 6+ months and never an issue. The closest Iāve seen to separation is when I mix a bottle and barely shake it, when I come back the flavors are more defined on the top of the solution. If I shake it good after mixing though this never happens.
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not really a conclusive test. They say the levels of PEG, but not PG in that conclusion. They are not the same thingā¦
PG and PEG 400 produced high levels of acetaldehyde and formaldehyde when heated to 230Ā°C. Formaldehyde production from PEG 400 isolate was particularly high, with one inhalation accounting for 1.12% of the daily exposure limit, nearly the same exposure as smoking one cigarette
I donāt have access to that study but how much did they vaporize? If you search further formaldehyde levels in PG in normal vaping use is magnitudes lower than a cigarette.
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Quit trying to dilute carts. OP asked about flavoring not cutting agents.
flavorings are usually suspended in PG so by using them, youāre flavoring and cutting your product as well simply because these flavoring are no where near as potent as terps so to get the desired flavor , youāll need to add more therefore cutting it
I donāt buy itā¦
I put 5% by weight of pg based flavoring
So a 1 ml cart might end up having at least 800 mg
People are talking about doing 100 mg to 1 ml
Iām trying to be nice this morning
Hemp industry needs to dilute for reducing THC.
Also, distillate is harsh. Whats wrong with lowering potency and user just have to take an extra puff or two? It would be a more pleasurable experience. As soon as this industry moves away from the archaic carts that we were using 10 years ago itāll move that direction. It already is with the CBD industry.
I agree with your statement 100%, it shouldnāt be diluted. But when you are fighting crystallization and THC concentration legallities thereās no other choice.
but yes, you can dilute oleoresin right into pg with whatever concentration you want. That works fine. but as soon as VG is added to try to thicken the distillate (because again, the target vessel are ceramic carts and will leak if too thin viscosity) then crashes out, so you have dilute exponentially to avoid that.
what is it that u dont buy ?
ejuice has anywhere from 15-30% flavoring by weight to achieve a desired flavor so if youre trying to achieve something similar with distillate, youll end up cutting your product.
probably why you wont see carrot cake and buttercream carts.
Hereās my problem with the āwe need to dilute to make it legalā statement.
If I was an employee somewhere or on probation and I consumed anything but cbd isolate, Iām going to fail a drug test and end up in a lot of trouble.
Maybe itās time to ditch the CBD cartridges idea altogether
OR
Maybe learn how to make a complex Blend of other cannabinoid isolates.
Or
Maybe itās time for the hemp/cbd industry to start lobbying for a change in national policy.
Or, get THC remediation tek available to the public.
Remove that barrier and youāll see a lot less of the problems with diluting.
For popping hot on a test, thatās arbitrary. Everyoneās situation is different and if your employment is at risk you need to stay away from full spectrum period.
As for change of policy, NC has 1% d9 limit on the table for hemp due to the vast amount of destroyed crops here and putting farmers in the poor house. But thatās politics and the only person that wins is those who can throw the most money the furthest.
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Basically it boils down to this. Diluting isnāt going to go away. People are going to do it for vast amount of reasons. This industry needs to step up and stop encouraging unknown diluents from pop up companies. Stop being scared of the ingredients that weāve been using in the vapor industry for years and millions of people use every day and not one death or lipid case tied to a reputable company. PG has been inhaled for YEARS. Itās in fog machines, nebulizers, inhalers, hell they used to pump it in hospital hvac systems because of its microbial properties.
Look I donāt really care what you put in your products. Just make sure you label them appropriately. Often times buyers go for the cheap stuff so Iām sure youāre onto something!
Funny people always want to equate vaping to fog machines and nebulizers.
Or claim breathing in a room with a fog machine is the same as filling your lungs up with the concentrated vapor.
Aside from the concentrations being slightly higher, how could they not be equated? Alcohol intake can vary with beer, liquor, even bread has some in it. It doesnāt change the data, just the intake volume. Which one could argue the higher consumption from direct inhalation could increase intake of undesirable components, but thereās been study after study. Inhaling anything besides air is going to have potential health risks. Iāll go with the devil I know. Iām not trying to change peopleās minds here, they are already made up but my main income stream is being scapegoated and I lost 75% of my business due to ignorant opinions and corrupt politics so I will do whatever I can to educate the masses on the truth of these components. Nobody is saying its completely risk free, but preliminary data shows substantial risk reduction compared to smoking and other inhalants . But even if you already know the risks why gamble with your health, and health of others for a potential new unstudied component?
But seriously, who the hell am I? Why should you believe some stranger on the internet? Statements need to be backed up with facts. For those that want the truth and trust science instead of the media, pick a study. I think youāll have enough to read here
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Or maybe you lost 75% of your business because people donāt like harsh throaty hits in their medicine.
Iām not sure what ānew unstudied componentā youāre referring to. I personally only add terpenes for flavor, not to cut my product. Not sure exactly what āgambleā iām taking by not vaping āfood gradeā flavorings.
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Mmmm love me some post nasal drip 
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lol it had nothing to do with harshness. My stuff is the bomb digitty. If it wasnāt I wouldnāt have multiple stores and in business for almost 10 years in the industry.
I was referring to the attack on the nicotine vaping industry due to misguided regulation regarding the kids getting sick from black market carts.
Terps are not proven safe for inhalation, some are known carcinogens. Putting terps in your carts without extensive knowledge of each component and what it can catylize into when vaped, is the gamble.
Iām not advocating using flavorings is āhealthyā. Im advocating that the vaping segment in this industry is completely fucked and it wonāt get better until people actually put peoples health before their wallet. Those cheap CCELL carts on ebay? Heavy metals, mineral oils from the machining, and god know what else as there is no regard for standardization.
Want the safest way to inhale cannabis? Vape the flower. And even thatās not risk free.
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Oh no my friend. I bought USP, food, and kosher pgs to test, they were all harsher than fractioned mct.
Have you compared the two?
Have you tried dissolving terps in pg?
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So youāre just here to cry about your failing business to a bunch of people who donāt use PG in their cannabis?
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MCT tastes metallic and burnt at high levels unless hidden with terps or other flavorings. Low dilution it works great. Becomes crappy and harsh when high concentrations like 50%+
And yes, Iāve been making CBD vape juice for over 3 years now starting with isolate. Terps and cannabanoids will solute, separating from pg/vg. MCT is showing to be a safe diluent and so far I donāt see any negative studies but I feel more needs to be done. We formulate with MCT for clients that request it. On paper MCT is showing to be lowest risk. Not sure if any in vitro studies have been done to date.
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