So first hello all just looking for some insight and to start a general discussion since there isn’t lots of good info that available online. I have been testing 4 times a month for almost a year with not one test showing positive for cannabis haven’t used in over a year but handle it daily and am around other medical users daily. Suddenly they have started popping up first lab 60 ng/ml confirmation lab 39ng/ml under the first labs 50… have now failed 3 on a rotation of fail pass fail pass pass fail.
My ideas
1: transdermal: heavy handling without gloves including hand stripping and possibly more important cleaning off with alcohol.
2: second hand: even though there is some studies showing levels after long exposure in sealed room it was tested using something like 3% thc in a smoke machine makes me wonder how it compares to walking through a small cloud or being just on the outskirts or the cloud in a large room of 95%+ thca.
Anyway just looking to start a discussion so possibly it could be utilized for people in non med states or work place that doesn’t accept cannabis usage. Nothing like not using your medicine and still failing to create confusion.
Side note 9 years ago I was in the same situation exactly and never failed a one nothing different except lab.
Maybe the thc has always been there and they are in need of calibration and it’s leaning towards the high side now?
Are you losing weight? You could be burning off old fat stored when you last smoked.
I dont think so tbh I don’t usual weigh myself but I would say likely maintaining it was more than a year since I last used so I don’t think that is possible however am not sure I appreciate the suggestion though.
I know it’s stored in fat cells and I have actually had my levels go up when I was a teenager on probation when I didn’t smoke and worked out really hard then found out I had to test that day. So I’m familiar with that but that would be news to me does it stay in like that?
Id say handling it, i had a trimmer who didn’t smoke and would have to take breaks cause she was getting stoned. I wash my hands with coconut oil after working and i can feel it sometimes, can’t say the same if i used alcohol cause the old lady don’t like crocodile hands.
ya I hear ya I usually use sap off soap when I have it but when not available it’s orange hand cleaner and alcohol mix. Ya I’ve been starting to lean towards that one the last one was day after trim so makes it was becoming my theory but everyone was dabbing so not very analytical.
Could you have sat on some THCa and maybe
I don’t know
Accidentally
Boofed a diamond?
Happened to me once.
Nah u know the saying goes both ways fire in fire out.
Trash out trash in the method of entry is reserved for only the darkest of crude.
But in all seriousness I’m looking to actually gather data on transdermal absorption or second hand inhalation with today’s potency products so if anybody ever needs it for reference it’s there. Inless u care to share data on level of absorption of pure thca through the rectum and subsequent thc-cooh levels in your urine not sure that helps.
Welp, that’s the best of my internet for today.
On topic, anyways it’s probably alcohol + skin or handling and cross-contamination with food. I also failed once as a kid when I was clean as a whistle. I suspected tylenol false-positive, but I assume drops are more accurate these days.
maybe they switched to a shitty test with false positives?
I was a fucking fat shit when I was 17, did nothing but eat and had to get a job so it was hella cranberry juice and lots of skateboarding. After a week or two of really doing it heavy exercise would get me high as fuck after awhile.
Skin is definitely a possibility:
Terps. Limonene is transdermal compound that can carry thc across the skin. Iv made some patches in the past albiet shitty from just mixing limonene with activated concentrate and taping a cottonball to my skin. If your alcohol wash is dirty enough the terps can likely facilitate transfer of thc into the blood. That’d be my guess. walking through dab clouds all day certainly cant be helping.
As a side note I use to live in CA and was visiting AZ for an emergency. I literally left my lab and drove directly to AZ. I got pulled over in AZ for some basic traffic nonsense and realized I left my ID at home, im no lawyer but according to the AZ cops, no id and smelling like weed was all they needed to pull me out and search the car without consent. They found a quarter gram of fresh frozen flower that stuck to my shoe and got tracked into and pulverized into the floorboard. I showed them everything they needed to see that I was a legal CA processor (metrc license, paystub, lab pics, 1000’s of fresh frozen lb pics.) They didnt care. Then when I was back in CA my AZ parole officer made first contact with me and told me that drug testing was going to be required and classes and yadayada. I told her that I should be the one teaching those classes and that I would fail every drug test I took for the same reasons we are wondering about here. I told her that I finally had my life on track with my first successful management job that makes me a contributing member to society and how dare they try to take that from me. I stated that the enforcement of the drug tests that i am guarenteed to fail by simply doing my job is unacceptable. She asked if I had a medical card, I didnt, she told me tough luck. I again left work immediately after that phone call and got my CA medical and emailed it over to her 5 hours later along with my signed job offer and job description. I made it 18 months without hearing anything from her, no calls or follow ups about drug testing or classes. I think I did end up doing some community service though iirc. Idk this worked very well for me im sure every situation is very different.
I used to get high transdermal using everclear to clean my activation pans and then get drunk and high by soaking my arms in the everclear and activated THC.
How long ago was this? It’s legal in AZ rec and med, I don’t see why they would arrest you for having weed. Also from my understanding a cop can ask you to get out of your car for any reason they want. Its not illegal for them to do so. I also believe a judge here ruled it to be unlawful to search a vehicle for the odor of marijuana. I could be wrong though.
https://www.azleg.gov/ars/36/02852.htm
C. Notwithstanding any other law, the odor of marijuana or burnt marijuana does not by itself constitute reasonable articulable suspicion of a crime. This subsection does not apply when a law enforcement officer is investigating whether a person has violated section 28-1381.
Ya I have my medical card however the judge is one of the few left in my state that trys to deny access to patients so I didn’t try to push the topic with her and decided to not use for my probation then got to 2 months left and this started popping up lol. First 2 failed she gave me what she called a “stern” warning and increased my testing to 8 times a month as soon as I was told that I had to go test immediately and that one failed too lol. The funny part about it was I contacted my attorney after that since my state has ruled you cannot punish medical patients for using on probation and he told me 2 weeks ago he just got out of her courtroom telling her what she was doing is illegal and threatening to report her so she dropped it with that patient. I find it mighty impressive that she had that experience then had the audacity to tell me she’s warning me instead it’s OK u have your card.
I actually use to work at a bottling plant and we ran this small craft Line that was delicious it was like 8% or something and tasted like propel best I can compare it to lol. Anyway we would have to check to “leakers” which just involved squeezing every few 5hat came off to make sure they don’t spray you in your face and left me tell you lots leaked and I was usually soaked in alcohol the days we ran that line and I would be driving for lunch asking myself is this OK? Feeling very buzzed
Also ya that’s what got me questioning the transdermal I started reading about patches and was like man if it’s on my for 10 hrs a day plus terpenes plus alcohol I wonder if that’s how. Just strange that I never managed to fail Test years ago for it.