Who else was scammed by arometrix and their fraction finder?

ROFLMAO… Elliot would say just about anything to sell a unit. We’ve had people come through our shop a couple years later and tell the stories about all the crazy things he would say and what he would say about our unit. Which obviously he was lying about his and ours so that way he would sell his.


If you browse through their source code you’ll find that it’s actually just a copy of some old Accustrata code remapped over as a new device. It was probably only a couple hours of work to make the transition because accustrata makes spectrometers.

This sensor was a rushed to market system by elliot.

I have measured the UV source LED and it’s a strong 365nm peak but also with a ton of visible light with most intensity around blue. Without a uv bandpass filter to clean up the signal, it is naturally contaminated with visible light. :person_shrugging::person_facepalming:

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I wonder if they licensed that or just ripped it

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Sounds like a probable cause for copyright violation right there. Has anyone contacted them? Lmao.

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Is that 420 nm claim about the emission or detection?

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Accustrata is the some of the same group, they founded arometrix partly to avoid having cannabis work at accustrata

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Gotcha

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You can see the blue light in the emission of the source light in just about every video of its operation and if you have one in hand it’s pretty obvious.

Which it can also end up in the detection depending on how much of the UV was blocked by the product.

Edit: 365nm UV is not visible. The colors you see are of the visible spectrum, to include white, just not as strong as blue.

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The blue is in the emission spectra, the Uv light they use is a 365nm led

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From the horses mouth

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Just noticed we have their fraction finder. Bought the spd setup from lab society. Coworker had issues from the getgo trying to figure it out. Pretty much stopped using it and based his decisions on color. Hittin mid 70s with ff and ended up 92% without it. $25k for the system and they were talking up the FF like its the next big thing.

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I had basically the same experience… potency with the ff test batches were barely better than the crude we made it from, when we consistently hit 95%+ going by eye.

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Lab Society was talking up the FF? Was this recent, Agrify Lab Society or pre sale LS?

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No was bought prior to me being hired so about 3 years ago. They were on the fence about the FF too. Didn’t seem worth the extra cost but ultimately decided on it.

Not sure about the last part.

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LS was pushing these with their “turn key” systems pre agrify 100%

Edit: one ended up on an invoice that was paid by a previous employer with much more money than sense. It was useless we never used it

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Lol at a product supposedly the brainchild of the SPDKing being sold by LS

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Not to mention @Across_International, @usalab, BVV, @SamboCreeck.com, and others

Alex, You might enjoy this article: https://www.sciencedirect.com/org/science/article/pii/S2046206924025798

In your note above you reference a fluorescence emission spectra obtained from CBDA excited with 365 nm.(figure 5d)
If you note the dual nature of the emission peak. The latter hump is probably the Anion specific contribution over lapping with the Acid’ emission. In salicylic acid studies there are assays based on this latter emission which are used to quantify the concentration of Anion form in any one mixture. Cannabinoid homologues should exhibit similar characteristics.

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