You have to remember that processes describing vegetable oil refining have insights but cannot generally be directly used to refine cannabis resin. A steam or hot water process for our resin for example would be more of a deodorizing step, though it can also remove gums. Vegetable oil is much thinner than the resin we are working with, at a given temperature. Therefore, it might be done on very warm distillate, but implementation would be difficult with the amount of heat needed to move distillate around.
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I have used steam distillation many times to refine this stuff. It will first fraction off the terpenes then the cannabinoid will begin forming in the condenser to the point it begins to clog. At that point hot water is run through the condenser and the oil then will run out into my collection dish to be rinsed. This is first pass shown. Steam distillation is an effective way to reduce distillation temps without a vacuum system for sensitive organic compounds. It is simple and it works.
edit: after doing the vid cleanup to post this and posting I went to the apt. jacuzzi which is major relief as much as vaping. I do a lot of thinking in the spa lol. Something caught me about my process shown above that was a major face palm moment lolz! I figured out why I had been cracking the bottom of these flasks doing this after several runs and exactly how to stop it AND increase efficiency many fold over lolz.
In short my offhand comment about how hot I had made the extract before running steam is what the major tech error was! I had adjusted my heating mantle to the boiling temp of water. MISTAKE. It needs to be much hotter and the hotter the more efficient. Further, the reason my flasks were cracking was the point of steam introduction was superheating just that spot in the glass which then eventually cracks right there. Face palm moment… if the heating mantle is substantially hotter than the incoming steam then the steam in fact has a somewhat cooling effect but in no case would the steam introduce a hot spot because it would be cooler than the glass.
Am I thinking this through right?
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I’ve only heard good things of steam deodorizing. Under vacuum, what is so scary about hot distillate?
I think so. Without seeing it firsthand, it is hard to tell, but you’re a very intelligent fellow, so I have faith. 
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Yes Sir! I hear lots of good things, too. What do you mean “scary”?
You’re not the only one to bring that up, as well as degradation of THC at high temps. I see very little harm in the process.
Oh I am aware I am not the first to mention it. Nothing new under the sun, really. As long as one is working with gravity and not against it, I see no major problems using steam as a heat source to liquefy and move distillate, and as a medium by which to remove odors.
Hi guys im new to this site… i was wondering if there is a refined citric acid degumming procedure… and is it something i would find by joining the good life community?
Here is mine, @escobar2000
https://future4200.com/t/citric-acid-degumming-tek/936/17Citric Acid Degumming Tek - #17 by Photon_noir
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I’d like to hear more on this is that then winterized or distilled
Winterized after degum
Can anyone explain why the gumming happens in the first place? Is there a reason I want to de-gum? Or is it effectively harmless? Is all my potency trapped in the gum?
This is my first time encountering this phenomena so just trying to get a grasp on what I’m dealing with here.
Thanks
The primary reason, in my experience, is to maximize the effectiveness of the super expensive MagSil-Pr when doing pesticide remediation. A secondary benefit seems to be stability of distillate post degumming, at least afa oxidation goes, although the “gums” aren’t the only thing that can oxidize
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if i mix the degumming enzyme in a small amount of water at 40c and then add to a bucket of ethanol/crude, the ethanol proof being around 175 (because of moisture in the biomass) would then enzyme still work properly?
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Yes, the enzymes will still work
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does the enzyme pull water solubles?
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I always recommend consultation clients buy a copy of that book! The AOCS is such an amazing resource to have.
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