For those of you who don’t know, there is currently a cannabis specific course that has been created at USU by Bruce Bugbee. The course already had one version and the second version is now open. It is entirely online and you don’t need to be enrolled at USU to take the course.
There are lectures from Bruce Bugbee, Royal Heins, several of Bruce’s students and several other guest speakers.
I have made several lectures on cannabis nutrition for this course, including low cost nutrient approaches, organic hydroponic formulations and using HydroBuddy to create nutrient formulations. The course is available here:
The idea is to provide an evidence-based approach to cannabis cultivation.
Please let me know what you think, if any of you guys happen to take it (or took it last year!)
I took it last year that’s how I knew who you were when you arrived here ! Can’t wait to do it again to see the new lectures included this go. Will Def pay more attention this time so i can take the test At the end for the certificate.
Been wanting to take it since the first dropped. my fear is it will be filled with most of the subjects he has already discussed across various platforms or subjects that we get into detail here on this forum or others.
The value I think is that you get all of the information in one centralized location spoon fed to you. You’re no longer taking years of your life searching videos, forums and books and etc.
@danielfp from your vantage do you see the course more so purposes a neophyte or would more experienced growers gain an even richer understanding?
$1500 for a course is not a lot for a commercial guy as a few adjustments could get you that back 1000 fold over a life span.
I think there is a lot of value for an experienced grower, perhaps much more than for a neophyte.
The advantages are that you get a very data-centric approach, you get a solid foundation in plant science, centered around cannabis and you also hear about the current scientific understanding of cannabis, including light, nutrition, etc.
The course’s objective is to help you understand how things work and show you what we know, instead of telling you “this is how you should do things”. I bet for experienced growers a lot of things will “click” after watching the lectures that are not obvious for a neophyte.
I am on it though - and I consider Bruce and Royal dear friends - so I’m clearly biased in its favor
It would be much better for you to hear from others who have taken the course and can attest to its value.
Lately I have been thinking that I want to get back into hydroponic growing after doing only extraction for the last 8 years and I’m considering taking this course.
I’ll take it just to get the education but I’m wondering if the certification would actually be useful in terms of potentially getting hired on somewhere.
I’m sure that it SHOULD be useful to have but what is the real world reality of its usefulness on a resume.
Can anyone speak to that?
I would think it depends. Having a college degree doesn’t guarantee a career nor work. That certification would help if it were the difference between you and another candidate I would think.
When we would hire at our dispensary I would come across individuals that took bud tending certification courses and that never made me want to hire them anymore or less than a competing candidate, hope that gives you some perspective
Do you know if they are going to continue updating and refining this course?
I have made my shift back into the growing world after almost a decade focusing on extraction and I would like to dive into some new/current grow info.
I see the current course closes on May 31 so I will probably hold off signing up until the next enrollment.
Also, when you personally take on clients is it more to focus on the nutrition/feed formulation/tissue analysis side of things or do you also take on people who are basically just newbs who want to pay you to ask newb questions? For example, I have heard you say you have a version of Mulder’s chart for Cannabis that you’ve put together based on 500+ tissue samples you’ve taken from clients. Can I pay you to get access to that?
Do you know if they are going to continue updating and refining this course?
As far as I know the idea is to do yearly iterations of the course to improve on it, but as it becomes more refined modifications are expected to become less pronounced (as with most university classes). However as this field is evolving quite fast, I would expect a lot of additional content within the next several iterations.
Also, when you personally take on clients is it more to focus on the nutrition/feed formulation/tissue analysis side of things or do you also take on people who are basically just newbs who want to pay you to ask newb questions?
When I take long term clients we focus on whatever the client’s objectives are. Sometimes it is to improve yield or quality or reduce costs or create better data logging, etc. I would have no problem taking a person who is new to the field and walking them through everything, but I don’t think this would be a good fit since long term consulting is much more expensive. I am also at the moment not taking any new long term clients.
I also provide hourly consulting that is a much better fit to just “ask questions” and get some answers and pointers into directions to go into. I do no formulations through this sort of hourly consulting, but answering questions is one of its fundamental roles. Note that my website is down atm, so you can schedule in a couple of days, when it should be back online.
For example, I have heard you say you have a version of Mulder’s chart for Cannabis that you’ve put together based on 500+ tissue samples you’ve taken from clients. Can I pay you to get access to that?
No, this information is reserved for the people who paid for the tissue analysis (under NDA). I will ask them if they would be willing to sell access to it, but it likely won’t be cheap.
Consulting in early cannabis was laying out a grow doctrine and having them not follow it or take detrimental shortcuts.
You have to lead the horse to water AND show them a way of drinking water without it popping hot for pesticides because they were too cheap to buy predetory bugs, or failing mold testing because the heat bill was too high and they cut the dehus and radiant heaters and allowed temps to drop to the upper 40’s and they decided to allow 15 degree f temp swings when the lights went out, triggering a snow-White PM outbreak…
If it were a 4 figure investment I would entertain that personally. That’s how valuable I see that data because thats what I think one would spend over the course of a couple years attempting to get the data any how.
But I am sure they would want more than that.
Want to ensure they keep going? Don’t sleep on this mailing list. Everyone reading should enter their email (and a dozen or so temp email address), even if you use a disposable temporary email like Guerrilla Mail or 10 Minute Mail, so they can gauge course interest to decide if they are going to keep offering the course.
Maybe @danielfp has a yes/no answer if they are doing a 2023 version and when registration begins.
Registration mailing list sign up link (Microsoft forms)
Email or call them directly:
Thanks for that mailing list link.
I also sent an email.
I hope they do some content on crop steering.
Do you happen to have any updates on the next iteration of this USU course?
I see on the website that the registration is still closed but I think we are coming up on the time of year when it typically opens.
My local college got a donation to build a cannabis garden and teach classes. 500, 000 plus annual money to fund the program. But so far they are only offering lame classes on laws and a certificate program to become a security guard at a cannabis facility or be able to transport. Nothing much on hands on growing.
you’ve sent them your CV and offered to teach a course?
im pathetic, I should. they had a teachers assitant at 26 per hour 6 hours a day. nothing over 35 hours allowed No pension or any other perk teachers get. Then they still have an unfilled teachers job but it pays based on hours taught and i cant make sense of it but it looks like the assistant gets more. A forum member heres mom worked at the same college and didnt give positive reviews but its a job. Im sure its not HARD, and im more than capable. The college is in the same town as the casino so I just keep driving past the college.