It’s not about restrictions for poor people and chemistry. It’s about just saving up and purchasing or buying used hardware that’s suitable for your uses. If you have a 2 liter mantle then get 2 liter glass. If you want to save money, buy a 1 liter mantle first before you buy a 2 liter mantle.
There isn’t just a magical material you can buy and prevent the mantle itself from not operating properly or safely. You might want to read about how those devices work to further help understand why it’s generally unsafe to use smaller flasks in larger heating bowls. I didn’t even mention the wattage increase issue you may also run into.
There are real definitive answers out there about mantles. It’s just simply based on how they work. To begin to say and act like there isn’t definitive and relatable basis/facts you can absorb and read about how heating systems work and how to distill is sorta wonky comment you made. You probably already know the actual answers and you just want to still try and search for a bypass to the reality. It’s okay. No hate. Just saying for safety and performance reasons try and use the correct sized hardware through out.
I wasn’t calling people morons. I was saying how moronic it would be to give bad advice and then someone to follow it and end up in that risk scenario where a accident occurs. In all honesty I made plenty of mistakes but most could have been avoided if I watched or hung around others who were better trained than I was.
I feel you and totally agree. Self educating can only take you so far. I sure wish I had good mentors while working in the lab. Unfortunately, had to make a lot of mistakes and learn on my own, and will always have more to learn.
Thank you again for bringing up hazards, safety is #1.
If you look out on eBay you’ll find cheap shit to use. My two cents is that I would not distill in a 1l flask anyways. I’ve never had great success with it. I feel like the smallest with good results and performance is a 2l mantle/flask setup. Below that you get a lot of impurities because the neck is so close to the fluid/materials on the flask.
1L distillation works fine if the system is designed properly.
Undersized flasks are not a hazard at all if all of the normal safety procedures are followed. Although not heat efficient, the situation is not dangerous and can absolutely be done with success.
Please spare me a long rant. We’re not talking about how to optimize the situation in your head.
I encountered an issue sadly. ;.; While I was initially excited about it, I later noticed in the fine print that it is limited to a maximum temperature control of 250°C. Unfortunately, this falls short of my requirements, as I need a device with a broader temperature control range of 0-450°C. Without the ability to reach the desired higher temperatures, the equipment would not serve its intended purpose, and it would be more practical to utilize a hot plate or an alternative heating device to meet my specific temperature control needs. So close tho, really appreciate you looking.
I can tell my friend, me as well ;p I express my gratitude for your cautionary advisory. Currently, my sole imminent endeavor involves the distillation of sulfuric acid. Nevertheless, I am drawn to the prospect of possessing a temperature control system that encompasses a wide range, as it would be advantageous for addressing a spectrum of potential future undertakings.
You do realize you can’t use a borosilicate glass flask at temps above 250C right?
You’ll need a quartz flask to operate at higher temps and they are pretty expensive
This is what I’m talking about when I say mixed information.
No I did not know that.
The information I had said it can handle the temps I need.
But apoun further research, now I dunno wtf to think.
Lol.
Automatically assume it’s nonsense and start fact-checking the result.
Same goes for
“Highlighted”
“Sponsored”
“Promoted”
When you’re scrubbing the open web for information avoid those keywords, as well a majority of their synonyms.
When you do find information you’re looking for, ask yourself why does this make sense instead of does this make sense as misinformation can be convincing.
That’s from three or 4 different top google results. But yeah. Just the difference between them all was a red flag for me and I knew warranted more investigation. That is good advice ty.
In hindsight I should have checked manufacturer spec.
I was just so excited to see borosilicate glassware kit with 4 different kines of condensers and such for under 100 bucks I got overly excited. Never seen glassware that cheap in my lifes.
We anneal borosilicate at 565C. It’s so soft that glass coils will sag under their own weight if not fully supported.
Up to 250C is fine but anything more is causing stress to build up.
Quartz is good though.
Just out of curiousity my friend, is it GG-17 glass?
I am not trying to argue or doubt you at all.
But it seems to be a lot of variables. I linked the spec sheet for GG-17 glass above.
I will be going no where near that. Probably 400c max tbh
I am extremely grateful for you looking out for my an alls’ well beings.
