Heating, boiling, vaporizing, and misting are extreemely different than burning, Charing, residual deposits from burning etc…
Just saying.
Heating, boiling, vaporizing, and misting are extreemely different than burning, Charing, residual deposits from burning etc…
Just saying.
No, it acts as a oxidizer for the contamination within the oil. Read again.
Again back to your original statement. It’s not burning and Charing on the inside of the diffusion pump. No that’s the contaminants burning inside and coating the metal. When air hits really hot inert oils or silicone oils it violently breaks then down into less diffusive oils. It isn’t burning then. You keep missing the physics. The oil cannot interact with incoming molecule streams. It would inherently prevent the pump from opperating. You aren’t burning or charing any oils. Just the stuff that’s landed inside there.
It’s not burning or combusting. It’s breaking a longer chain molecule into less effective oil types. It cannot diffuse. It’s called fracking diffusion oil. Its completely separate from misting or whatever. And separate from burning or charing.
Are you trying to grasp at straws to troll me on purpose.
The diffusion pump functions because, at the low vacuum produced by the roughing pump, the concentration of oxygen is too low to do much damage. If the backing vacuum is not low enough, it won’t function, and the oil will be toast in short order. Those statements “you can run a diffusion pump for months without changing the oil” apply only when it is being run under the recommended backing vacuum. If you try and leave your diffusion pump on and open to atmosphere for a month, that oil will definitely not be good by the end of it
Your still not charging, burning or doing anything that will damage the walls. That is from contamination within that loggs up the oil.
You can toast your oil from many different reasons but when you pour it out it will still come out pretty much clear and it won’t have any burn residue within itself that will be left on the walls. It won’t burn or char the unit even if you render your oil useless from fracking the molecules.
This is one more assertion that has no evidence and contradicts manuals. The manuals state the diffusion fluid will form a char. Without evidence to the contrary, we may thus let your claims pass by ignored like a gentle breeze.
Bro, if you open your diffusion for more than a fraction of a second or will splash the oil into your roughing pump. Your example is useless because worse will happen and render the pump lack of proper oil fill and it won’t work. Air inlet info a diffusion will nearly immediately splash oil out of the diffusion like a rocket. That’s why you don’t introduce anything hut vacuum to a diffusion pump.
The char isn’t from the oil it’s when you’re using the pump and the oil absorbs contamination It needs time to eject it from the pump; If you have an air leak the air will enter and react with whatever else is burning in your oil (possibly) and that char will occur but it is not happening because the oil. Once again you are overly stating something that may have been written improperly or described to you and understood improperly. The oil must be inert or of a higher standard and a higher temperature resistance because it’s designed to absorb the molecules and eject them and not mix with them which would mean that if any contamination was to enter the oil you would be burning the contamination not the oil. hey man it doesn’t hurt my feelings you don’t have to argue with me actually you can do whatever you want I’m just telling you how it is I sell pumps I maintain pumps I deal with them on a normal basis I know a lot about pumps and you’re just regurgitating a mistake somewhere made on a piece of paper or it interpretation that has been missread.
I will give you one and only one credit to diffusion pump oil that will become burned. I’m not a chemist but I do know that certain organic oils and synthetic oils and inert oils react to certain toxic and caustic gases. and only in the case that it can cause a gas interaction oxidizer that can create a situation where oil is actually degraded and turned from a oil based product into a carbon based product. However this will never occur, ever with cannabis. We don’t use diffusion pumps to evacuate caustic gasses with other gases in reactory processes.
so yes in theory if you used certain types of diffusion pump oil and certain types of caustic gases with the concurrent inlet of other gases that act as oxidizers they can create chemical reactions and degrading oil into a carbon type slurry but this actually takes a lot of time and it has a certain rating for how many hours it can handle that oil for before the diffusion is shut off and replaced with another diffusion pump or shut on on another extended array. for the sake of argument when we deal with cannabis or cannabis related products your diffusion oil is not burning or charring at all
So your saying people don’t make mistakes. Okay. Cool story bro.
You are a chemist but you don’t know how diffusion pumps work. I got it. Stop twisting my words around. You’re making a fool of yourself.
Of course people make mistakes. I am always happy to correct mistakes in the manuals when there is evidence to show they are wrong. But that is not the case here, as you have refused to provide evidence for any if your claims against it. Thus the manual stands.
I said, if you were keen on reading that certain caustic and damaging and acidic vapors when they enter a diffusion pump can be oxidized themselves like say for instance in semiconductor when caustic vapors are loading the diffusion pump and then boron and or even flouride or peroxide gas is sent in, it can cause severe damage to the oil and break it down to carbon residue. But when we talk about oil itself burning and Charing it’s not happening. Not with cannabis. I’m talking in only one really weird instance with microchip manufacturing and similar industries. It’s really only when the molecules entering the pump are conducive to the health of the oil itself. As a chemist I thought you’d be able to differentiate and understand this easily.
I may be wrong. You clearly don’t get it.
The evidence is everywhere online. You can do some reading can’t you. I mean on your own right…Mr chemist? Beuller. Beuller.
Dude I don’t care what you do with diffusion pumps. you posted a manual from a 5060 which is an air-cooled pump made by some other company that went out of business in the 90s. And Edwards sold them and then some other company took over. They aren’t really made anywhere except on europe. clearly you missed the point of “evidence” you posted a manual which gives suggestive information which is not valid in any factual form. you then absorb this information and decided that it was fact when in fact you can go on the internet and do as much research on diffusion pumps as possible and you will 100% be able to understand why your comment is incorrect. when dealing with non-interactive vapor molecule streams diffusion pump oil is meant to be inert and not reactive because it would be conducive to the process of diffusing molecules in the vapor stream and releasing them in the exit port. You’re welcome to run the diffusion pump and give anyone any kind of advice you want. I highly suggest you actually do the research and you do the work required to find out the information on your own instead of attacking other people who are working really hard to help you understand what’s going on. I’m not on here arguing with you because I want to make a fool of you I’m actually trying to help you understand what’s happening in the pump and you refuse to do your own research on the internet and then you provide a manual which is just suggestive information. It’s a manual it’s not a white paper
The evidence is all over Google. I’m not your babsitter. I tried to help you. Now you can help yourself.
Let the record stand, then, that my points remain uncontradicted. Bye
Your still wrong and you don’t even get it. Your a chemist. Your trying to say a inert oil, or a high fractionated high temp oil, or a semi blended synthetic oil is become chemically changed on a molecular level with the vapor stream offered by cannabinoids or similar organic distillations? Please explain to us “Mr chemist” how this chemical reaction is allowing these oils then to chemically change(even though they are non reactive to those temps and we’re manufactured under much higher temperature and vacuum rates) and become a different chemical molecule that would then infact allow those chemically converted molecules to then burn. Please tell us the chemical reaction from our high vacuum vapor stream that is chemically changing the diffusion oil to create a method for the oil to further break down and char the inside.
Explain to us this.