Not to complicate ideas… but can volatile organic compounds in one “early flowering” chemotype induce early flowering in other plants in a room?
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it makes sense for sure other plants have effects on plants around them drywhy got me looking more into it and here is my conclusion on this:
Okay so my initial observation was valid in the sense that terpenes have a relationship with flowering times, but wrong that they are responsible: the terpenes in longer flowering sativas are associated with higher cytokinin levels and longer flowering times. That’s why these terpenes are found more in long flowering sativas.
- Shorter Flowering (High Gibberellins, Low Auxins, Low Cytokinin’s):
• Auxins: Low levels of auxins result in less apical dominance, allowing for shorter internode lengths and faster overall growth.
• Gibberellins: High levels of gibberellins promote stem elongation, resulting in taller plants.
• Cytokinins: Low levels of cytokinins mean fewer cell division processes, leading to shorter flowering times.
Explanation:
In varieties with higher gibberellin levels and lower levels of auxins and cytokinins, the plant exhibits a growth pattern characterized by taller stature and longer internode lengths. This hormonal balance accelerates the vegetative phase, leading to a shorter flowering period. - Longer Flowering (Low Gibberellins, High Auxins, High Cytokinins):
• Auxins: Higher levels of auxins contribute to increased apical dominance, resulting in longer internode lengths and a more extended vegetative phase.
• Gibberellins: Low levels of gibberellins lead to reduced stem elongation, resulting in a more compact structure.
• Cytokinins: High levels of cytokinins play a crucial role in promoting cell division and delaying tissue aging, which extends the flowering phase.
Explanation:
In varieties with lower gibberellin levels and higher levels of auxins and cytokinins, the plant follows a growth pattern characterized by a more compact structure and longer internode lengths. This hormonal balance promotes an extended vegetative phase, delaying the transition to the reproductive phase. As a result, the flowering period is prolonged, allowing for the development of larger, more robust flowers.
The connection between certain terpenes and flowering times lies in the influence of cytokinins on the aging process of the plant. As the plant transitions into the flowering phase, the increase in cytokinins leads to enhanced cell division and delayed tissue aging. This, in turn, contributes to the formation of flowers over an extended duration, potentially leading to higher yields.
Cytotoxic terpenes associated with cannabis include: - Pinene
- Terpinolene
- Beta-Caryophyllene
- Alpha-Pinene
- Beta-Pinene
- Limonene
- Ocimene
- Humulene
These terpenes play a role in the plant’s defense mechanisms against pests and pathogens. They work in synergy with the plant’s natural immunity, enhancing its ability to fend off potential threats. Their presence contributes to the adaptability and resilience of the plant within its ecosystem.
Sesquiterpenes and Flowering Duration: Higher levels of sesquiterpenes in long-flowering sativa strains can be attributed to elevated auxin levels. Plants with higher auxin levels demonstrate enhanced efficiency in synthesizing tryptophan, which subsequently leads to elevated levels of sesquiterpenes during the flowering stage.
and in your personal experience or experiments you have done what are the effects of each terpene on plant development? what terp attracts what bug? what terp deters what bug? Our hydrangias are full of all kinds of bugs.
I do not have personal experiences but i am very good at finding correlations: one correlations for example is alpha pineine is less water soluble than beta pineine and its associated with wetter/High humidity landraces more than beta pineine and dryer/lower humidity landraces i can conclude that alpha pineine helps with humidity, just look at friesland indica as an example it comes from a super wet region and its dominant aroma is pine. higher limonene is linked to areas with more uv exposure , cytotoxic terpenes are related to cytokinin production and linked with delayed ageing and increased flowering times., linalool is good for keeping moths away, geraniol is good for leafhoppers the strain i found highest in geraniol based of description is badhiya village from thelandracemafia. im still learning but a simple observation has turned into deeper understanding of what mechanism are at work in production of terpenes and the growth process of the plant I love dearly.
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wetter landraces???
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a region with higher humidity levels
youre confusing terps with structure, A dense plant will rot in many areas. Other plants can go long and then finally a wook runs into the room begging for beer.
I disagree the same auxins,gibberallins,and cytokins that are responsible for structure are also responsible for the terpene levels to an extent. they both correlate to each other thats why we can see similarities in terpene profiles assocaited with certain regions and growth characteristics specific to those plants in that region. edit: if your reffering to indoor varities that are mostly all mutant hybrids that have unnatural settings and light cycles then it doesnt apply as much, i am referring to the real cannabis plants that are in nature not hyrbids that have been indoors or 30 generations.
you are using terms im using 20 plus years of 6 harvest per year the terps are not the thing having any effect on finishing times. my first strain was c99- thin leaved true sativa but grew from a closet to a full 20 footer . Terps determining things? it smells like a fruit cocktail.
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THE MULTIFACETED WORLD OF PLANT HORMONES: INSIGHTS INTO AUXINS, TERPENES, GIBBERELLINS, AND CYTOKININS
THE MULTIFACETED WORLD OF PLANT HORMONES: INSIGHTS INTO AUXINS, TERPENES, GIBBERELLINS, AND CYTOKININS
Role of Monoterpenes and Cytokinins in Flowering
- Monoterpenes and Cytokinins share properties.
- They both use the mevalonate pathway and have cytotoxic effects.
- This suggests that specific Monoterpenes associated with Cytokinins play a role in prolonging flowering.
- Cytokinins enhance plant vitality and productivity by delaying aging.
- These shared terpenes are linked to plant stress responses, slowing growth and prioritizing defense mechanisms over biomass.
Comparison with Auxins and Sesquiterpenes
- Some Monoterpenes function similarly to Cytokinins, akin to how Sesquiterpenes work with Auxins.
- As the plant transitions to flowering, cytotoxic Monoterpenes assume the role of Cytokinins.
- In flowering cannabis plants, Cytokinin levels decrease while Monoterpene levels rise, following the same pathway.
- This mirrors the dynamic between Auxins and Sesquiterpenes, where Auxins decrease and Sesquiterpenes increase during flowering.
Considerations for Strains with Long Flowering Times
- When evaluating a strain with extended flowering, consider both Monoterpenes and their role in replacing Cytokinins, as well as Sesquiterpenes and their role in replacing Auxins.
- Additionally, take into account their direct anti-inflammatory effects on receptors producing Auxins, which lead to slower growth.
- Strains with extended flowering times should have high levels of cytotoxic terpenes and elevated sesquiterpenes.
Auxins: Tryptophan (Auxin Precursor)
Tryptophan, an essential amino acid, serves as the primary precursor for auxin biosynthesis, undergoing enzymatic steps to form various auxin precursors. Although not a terpene itself, tryptophan intersects with terpene biosynthesis through shared metabolic pathways, particularly in the creation of specific aromatic compounds. Tryptophan acts as a precursor to indole-3-acetic acid (IAA), the most abundant and biologically active auxin in most plants. IAA plays a crucial role in influencing plant growth patterns, promoting apical dominance by inhibiting lateral bud development in favor of top bud growth. As the plant transitions to the flowering phase, a shift in hormonal balance occurs, characterized by a decrease in IAA levels and an increase in other hormones.
Tryptophan and Sesquiterpenes
Additionally, it is noteworthy that as IAA levels decrease during the flowering phase, there is often a concurrent increase in sesquiterpenes. This suggests an intriguing interplay between auxins and sesquiterpenes, highlighting the complex regulatory mechanisms that govern plant growth and development.
Terpenes Related to Tryptophan
- Humulene: A sesquiterpene found in plants alongside BCP, known for its earthy, woody scent.
- Guaiol: Another sesquiterpene with a distinctive, slightly sweet piney aroma.
- Selina-3,7(11)-diene: A sesquiterpene hydrocarbon structurally similar to BCP and humulene.
- Trans-β-Farnesene: Another sesquiterpene, commonly found in fruits with a slightly fruity aroma.
- α-Humulene: An isomer of β-caryophyllene, found in similar plants with similar biological properties.
- β-Caryophyllene (BCP): A sesquiterpene found in many plants, known for its spicy, peppery aroma and its unique ability to interact with CB2 receptors in the endocannabinoid system.
- α-Bisabolol: While not a sesquiterpene, it’s a monocyclic terpene alcohol found in some of the same plants as BCP, known for its sweet, floral aroma.
Association with Growth Cycles
Increased levels of tryptophan are associated with longer growth cycles, potentially leading to higher levels of terpenes like BCP. Higher concentrations of sesquiterpenes may result in longer growth cycles.
Anti-Inflammatory Mechanisms of Sesquiterpenes
- CB2 Receptor Activation (β-caryophyllene, BCP): Some sesquiterpenes, like β-caryophyllene, work by activating cannabinoid receptor type 2 (CB2), primarily found in immune cells. This activation can lead to a reduction in inflammation and modulation of the immune response.
- Inhibition of Pro-Inflammatory Mediators: Certain sesquiterpenes have been shown to inhibit the production or activity of pro-inflammatory mediators, such as cytokines and prostaglandins. This can help suppress the inflammatory response.
- Reduction of Reactive Oxygen Species (ROS): Some sesquiterpenes have antioxidant properties and can help reduce the levels of reactive oxygen species, which are molecules involved in inflammation and tissue damage.
Anti-Inflammatory Mechanisms of Monoterpenes
- Enzyme Inhibition: Monoterpenes can inhibit enzymes involved in the inflammatory process. For example, some monoterpenes may inhibit the activity of enzymes like cyclooxygenase (COX), which is involved in the production of inflammatory prostaglandins.
- Reduction of Cytokine Levels: Certain monoterpenes have been shown to decrease the production of pro-inflammatory cytokines, helping to dampen the inflammatory response.
- Antioxidant Activity: Like sesquiterpenes, some monoterpenes also possess antioxidant properties, which can help combat oxidative stress and reduce inflammation.
- Modulation of Immune Response: Monoterpenes may influence the immune system’s response to inflammation, potentially suppressing excessive immune reactions.
Gibberellins
ent-Kaurenoic acid: This diterpenoid compound serves as a precursor for gibberellin biosynthesis. Plants with higher gibberellin content exhibit more elongation and larger bud size, often at the expense of oil production.
Shared Pathway
Both gibberellins and (Mono)terpenes are derived from the same biochemical pathway, the mevalonate pathway. This pathway provides the basic building blocks (such as IPP and DMAPP) for the biosynthesis of various compounds, including terpenes and gibberellins.
Resource Allocation
Decreased levels of gibberellins may lead to a shift in resource allocation within the plant. As the same precursors are used for both gibberellins and terpenes, a decrease in gibberellin production could potentially free up resources for increased terpene biosynthesis.
Regulatory Mechanisms
Plants possess regulatory mechanisms that prioritize the production of certain compounds based on physiological needs. As the plant transitions to the flowering stage, there may be signaling pathways that promote terpene biosynthesis.
Examples of Gibberellins
- GA1 (Gibberellic Acid 1): Regulates stem elongation and cell division.
- GA3 (Gibberellic Acid 3): Commonly used in horticulture to promote seed germination and stimulate plant growth.
- GA4 (Gibberellic Acid 4): Plays a role in promoting stem elongation and flowering.
- GA7 (Gibberellic Acid 7): Involved in various aspects of plant growth and development, including cell elongation.
- GA9 (Gibberellic Acid 9): Known for its role in promoting stem elongation.
- GA19 (Gibberellic Acid 19): Involved in regulating flowering and other developmental processes.
Factors Influencing Gibberellin Levels
- Age of Plant Tissues: Older tissues and organs tend to have lower gibberellin levels compared to younger, actively growing tissues.
- Endogenous Regulation: Other plant hormones, such as auxins and abscisic acid (ABA), can interact with gibberellin signaling pathways and influence their levels.
Regulation of Gibberellin Levels
It is worth noting that gibberellin production can be influenced by various factors, including other plant hormones. For instance, Abscisic Acid (ABA), a plant hormone involved in stress responses and dormancy, has been shown to inhibit gibberellin biosynthesis. This highlights the intricate regulatory network that governs plant growth and development, with multiple hormones working in concert to achieve balanced physiological responses.
Effects of Lower Gibberellin Levels
- Smaller and Compact Buds: Lower gibberellin levels may lead to buds that are more compact and densely packed due to the role of gibberellins in cell elongation and expansion.
- Shorter Internodal Spacing: Varieties with lower gibberellin levels may have shorter distances between nodes, resulting in a bushier and more compact plant structure.
- Potentially Reduced Height: While gibberellins primarily influence vertical growth, varieties with lower levels might be somewhat shorter overall. Other factors also contribute to plant height.
- Possibly More Resin Production: Lower gibberellin levels may lead to greater allocation of resources towards resin production, resulting in buds with a higher concentration of cannabinoids and terpenes.
- Differences in Trichome Density: Varieties with lower gibberellin levels might exhibit differences in trichome density, which are crucial for the production of cannabinoids and terpenes.
- Possibly Altered Aroma and Flavor Profile: The balance of phytochemicals, including terpenes, contributing to aroma and flavor may be influenced by gibberellin levels, potentially resulting in a different aroma and flavor profile.
Cytokinins
Cytokinins are a class of plant hormones crucial for cell division and growth. They primarily utilize the adenine biosynthetic pathway and the isoprenoid pathway for their synthesis.
Adenine Biosynthetic Pathway
Cytokinins are derived from adenine, one of the five nucleobases in DNA and RNA. Adenine is synthesized through a series of enzymatic reactions within the cell.
Isoprenoid Pathway (Mevalonate Pathway)
This pathway is responsible for the biosynthesis of various compounds, including terpenes, gibberellins, and cytokinins. Specific enzymes and intermediates within this pathway are responsible for the production of cytokinins.
Types of Natural Cytokinins
Zeatin:
Zeatin is a well-known and extensively studied cytokinin. It is naturally found in plants, synthesized in roots, and transported to various plant parts. Zeatin promotes cell division, delays senescence, and regulates overall plant development.
Isopentenyladenine (iP):
iP is another significant natural cytokinin. Like zeatin, it promotes cell division and prevents leaf aging. It is commonly utilized in tissue culture techniques for plant propagation.
Triacontanol:
Though not a typical cytokinin, triacontanol is a fatty alcohol with cytokinin-like effects. It promotes cell division, enhances photosynthesis, and stimulates plant growth.
Uses of Cytokinins in Plants
Promoting Cell Division:
Cytokinins are essential for stimulating cell division, especially in regions of active growth like shoot and root tips.
Delaying Senescence:
Cytokinins help prolong the vitality and productivity of plant tissues by delaying aging and senescence.
Regulating Apical Dominance:
Cytokinins, in conjunction with auxins, regulate apical dominance, influencing resource allocation to main and lateral buds.
Affecting Leaf Expansion:
Cytokinins play a role in regulating leaf expansion, influencing overall leaf size and shape.
Stimulating Adventitious Shoot Formation:
In tissue culture, cytokinins like BA induce the formation of shoots from explants.
Enhancing Root Growth:
Cytokinins can stimulate the development of lateral roots and improve overall root system architecture.
Cytokinins and Leaf Characteristics
Smaller leaf size is associated with lower cytokinin levels, whereas larger leaf size indicates higher cytokinin levels. Longer maturing varieties in warm climates with abundant water and nutrients theoretically contain more cytokinin’s than those in cold, dry climates.
"In the world of cannabis cultivation, the plant demonstrates an astonishing ability to adapt to its environment, particularly in response to humidity levels. This adaptation hinges on a delicate balance of plant hormones, with gibberellins and cytokinins taking center stage.
In strains boasting higher gibberellin levels, a fascinating transformation occurs. These plants develop a more open and airy nug structure. This adjustment is significant, as it means the plant relies less on terpenes like pinene for protection against humidity. Instead, it leans on its physical structure, utilizing spaciousness to mitigate potential moisture-related issues.
Conversely, strains with elevated cytokinins and reduced gibberellins in humid conditions embark on a different defense strategy. Here, terpenes, such as pinene, step into the spotlight. These aromatic compounds, known for their protective properties, become paramount. The plant synthesizes higher levels of pinene, enhancing its ability to ward off the challenges posed by excess moisture.
This remarkable phenomenon underscores the versatility of the cannabis plant. It has evolved to employ either its physical structure or terpenes as primary means of defense, depending on the prevailing hormonal balance and environmental conditions. This adaptive prowess showcases nature’s ingenuity and highlights the intricate interplay between genetics, hormones, and environmental factors in cannabis cultivation."
Terpenes in Cannabis: Properties and Functions
Terpenes are organic compounds found in various plants, including cannabis. They play a crucial role in the plant’s growth, development, and defense mechanisms.
Sesquiterpenes and Flowering Duration Higher levels of sesquiterpenes in long-flowering sativa strains can be attributed to elevated auxin levels. Plants with higher auxin levels demonstrate enhanced efficiency in synthesizing tryptophan, which subsequently leads to elevated levels of sesquiterpenes during the flowering stage.
Allelopathic Cannabinoids & Terpenes
In cannabis, terpenes work in conjunction with cannabinoids to produce various effects. Notable terpenes include Limonene, Pinene, Terpinolene, Eucalyptol (Cineole), Beta-Pinene, and Linalool, while key cannabinoids are CBD and THC.
Terpenes as Defense Mechanisms
Terpenes in cannabis serve as natural defenses against fungi, bacteria, herbivores, and insects. Limonene, Pinene, Terpinolene, and Linalool exhibit allelopathic properties, inhibiting the growth of competing plants. Additionally, Pinene, Terpinolene, Eucalyptol (1,8-Cineole), Camphene, Borneol, and Geraniol display anti-fungal and anti-bacterial properties. Limonene and Pinene are effective against herbivores, while a combination of terpenes, including Limonene, Terpinolene, Geraniol, and Linalool, act as insect repellents.
Limonene: UV Protection and Signaling
Limonene, a citrusy-scented terpene, provides protection against ultraviolet (UV) radiation. Its higher presence in regions with elevated UV exposure indicates its role in shielding the plant from UV-induced damage. Additionally, Limonene serves as an environmental signal, enabling the plant to adaptively respond to its surroundings.
Terpene Concentration and Light Spectrum
The concentration of terpenes in cannabis plants is influenced by the light spectrum they receive. Myrcene, known for its earthy scent, is more prevalent in plants exposed to blue light. This underscores how specific light wavelengths affect the metabolic pathways responsible for terpene production. Understanding this relationship allows growers to fine-tune cultivation practices for specific terpene profiles tailored to their desired outcomes.
Myrcene:
Description: Myrcene is a terpene with an earthy, musky scent. Effect: Known for promoting cell expansion and growth. May contribute to hastening the transition to the flowering stage. Myrcene is also associated with the plant’s circadian rhythm, aiding in sensing changes in daylight hours to induce flowering response and facilitating cell expansion.
All Indoor 18/6-12/12 Cannabis that’s been bred for indoor environments are high in myrcene because of this
Humidity and Terpenes
Humidity levels play a significant role in terpene production. Adequate humidity levels in the growing environment can enhance terpene expression. Beta-Pinene is more associated with dry conditions, being less water soluble, while Alpha-Pinene, being more water soluble, assists in humid conditions. This difference in solubility can potentially lead to higher terpene concentrations in the plant.
Cell Growth Regulation and Inhibition
Certain terpenes and cannabinoids, including Alpha-Pinene, Beta-Pinene, Ocimene, CBD, and THC, play roles in regulating cell growth and inhibition. These compounds influence the overall development and flowering of the cannabis plant.
Cytotoxic Terpenes and Effects
Certain terpenes exhibit cytotoxic properties, impacting cell growth and development in cannabis plants. These terpenes include Terpinolene, Alpha-Humulene, Alpha-Pinene, Beta Caryophyllene, Sabinene, Camphene. In high quantities, they may slow plant growth and flowering times. In marginal quantities, they can potentially speed up flowering times. Additionally, they encourage metabolic processes within the plant, potentially leading to increased growth and development.
Anti-Inflammatory and Analgesic Properties
Terpenes like Alpha-Humulene, Alpha-Pinene, Beta Caryophyllene, Limonene, Sabinene, and Camphene possess anti-inflammatory and analgesic properties, contributing to the potential therapeutic benefits of cannabis.
The Interplay of Indoles, Sesquiterpenes, and Auxins
Indoles and sesquiterpenes are intimately connected to the production and regulation of auxins, a class of plant hormones crucial for various aspects of growth and development. Indole compounds, derived from the basic indole structure, serve as key intermediates in auxin biosynthesis. Tryptophan, a precursor to indoles, is a pivotal starting point in the synthesis of auxins. As auxin levels increase within a plant, there is a corresponding elevation in the production of indole compounds. Similarly, sesquiterpenes are influenced by auxin levels, as auxins play a regulatory role in the biosynthesis of various terpenes, including sesquiterpenes. Consequently, when a plant exhibits elevated auxin levels, it is likely to also demonstrate heightened concentrations of indole and sesquiterpene compounds. This relationship underscores the intricate biochemical interplay within plants, demonstrating how the modulation of key hormones like auxins can have a cascading effect on the synthesis of secondary metabolites, ultimately influencing the plant’s physiology and characteristics.
Resource Allocation Trade-offs: Exploring the Relationship Between Tannins, Auxins, and Secondary Metabolites in Plants
Higher tannin levels have been observed in plants exhibiting lower auxin levels, suggesting a potential trade-off between these two classes of compounds. This phenomenon may arise from the plant’s allocation of resources, as the synthesis of tannins requires a significant amount of energy. When a plant invests more resources into producing tannins, it might have fewer available for auxin production. This competition for resources is particularly evident in varieties with high tannin levels, which could experience a decrease in auxin levels compared to those with lower tannin concentrations. This interplay between tannins and auxins can indirectly affect the levels of other compounds like indoles and sesquiterpenes, as they are part of the intricate biochemical network within plants. This dynamic underscores the complexity of plant physiology and the multifaceted interactions between various secondary metabolites and hormonal pathways.
Flowering Time and Cytokinin Potency: Impact on Mono Terpene Composition
The levels of mono terpenes in plants are intricately linked to the presence of cytokinins, a class of plant hormones crucial for cell division and growth regulation. Specifically, longer flowering strains tend to exhibit higher concentrations of potent cytokinins. For instance, myrcene, a commonly occurring mono terpene found in various plants including hops and cannabis, is notably less cytotoxic compared to other terpenes. Interestingly, myrcene content tends to be more prominent in shorter flowering varieties. This correlation suggests a potential relationship between flowering time, cytokinin potency, and the production of specific mono terpenes. It underscores the complex interplay between hormonal regulation and secondary metabolite production in plants, ultimately influencing their chemical composition and characteristics.
Gibberellins: Growth and Reproduction in Plants
Gibberellins are a class of plant hormones known for their profound influence on various aspects of plant growth and development. Unlike terpenes, which are organic compounds responsible for the characteristic aromas and flavors of plants, gibberellins are not directly related to terpene or oil production. Instead, gibberellins primarily play a pivotal role in regulating processes such as stem elongation, seed germination, and flowering. Their influence on flowering times and plant characteristics is significant, as they can promote the elongation of stems and internodes, affecting overall plant structure. This hormone’s impact on flowering times is particularly crucial for optimizing reproductive success, as it helps coordinate the timing of flowering with environmental conditions and resource availability. Despite their distinct biochemical nature from terpenes, gibberellins are essential contributors to a plant’s overall phenotype and reproductive success.
In conclusion, terpenes are multifaceted compounds with diverse properties and functions within cannabis plants. Understanding their roles can provide valuable insights for cultivators and researchers aiming to optimize cannabis cultivation and harness its therapeutic potential. The intricate interplay between plant hormones, including auxins, terpenes, gibberellins, and cytokinins, along with terpenes’ significant impact on cannabis growth, development, and defense mechanisms, offers a perspective on the intricate world of plant biology.
Heres an example: In the world of cannabis cultivation, the plant demonstrates an astonishing ability to adapt to its environment, particularly in response to humidity levels. This adaptation hinges on a delicate balance of plant hormones, with gibberellins and cytokinins taking center stage.
In strains boasting higher gibberellin levels, a fascinating transformation occurs. These plants develop a more open and airy nug structure. This adjustment is significant, as it means the plant relies less on terpenes like pinene for protection against humidity. Instead, it leans on its physical structure, utilizing spaciousness to mitigate potential moisture-related issues.
Conversely, strains with elevated cytokinins and reduced gibberellins in humid conditions embark on a different defense strategy. Here, terpenes, such as pinene, step into the spotlight. These aromatic compounds, known for their protective properties, become paramount. The plant synthesizes higher levels of pinene, enhancing its ability to ward off the challenges posed by excess moisture.
This remarkable phenomenon underscores the versatility of the cannabis plant. It has evolved to employ either its physical structure or terpenes as primary means of defense, depending on the prevailing hormonal balance and environmental conditions. This adaptive prowess showcases nature’s ingenuity and highlights the intricate interplay between genetics, hormones, and environmental factors in cannabis cultivation.
you describe things, do you have any strain names associated with the different auxin levels etc?
no, and to my knowledge that is not something commonly measured in cannabis, this is a new field of study, they probably have never tried to measure the relationship between auxins and sesquiterpenes in cannabis and auxin levels ect, but it is common scientific knowledge how certain auxins work on plant growth in combation with gibberellins and cytokinins. I believe you already knew the answer to you question since you have studied cannabis for over 20 years and it is common knowledge that they do not test auxin levels gererally of the live cannabis plant during different phases of growth and compare that with all other factors, people only test for potency and cleanliness. please in the future do not ask questions you already know the answer to like asking what is wetness. I was hoping for a scientific discussion not boasting about 20 years of growing and not providing any evidence supporting that i am wrong and claiming so.
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while it may be fairly obvious to anyone regularly viewing COA that statutory testing does not include auxin levels, your contention that @thumper should have known the answer to his question was “there is no data” does beg the question: “what are you using for data”?!?
Have you done any testing?
Published the results?
Added any terpene/auxins/cytokines exogenously?
So what exactly should we be discussing scientifically?
That these hypothesized relationships are plausible, and we should gather data on terpene/auxins/cytokine levels in cannabis at various stages to investigate?
We already know a majority of the metabolic pathways responsible for our target molecules.
These pathways and responses can be controlled with LIGHT. Almost all the metabolites are based off light response and photosynthetic responses.
The trick is to maintain the metabolic activity for our desired forced outcome.
Terps, shape, height, density, cannabinoids, all of it, first step is radiation based activation.
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the data exist already, but is not connected with each other, they know the propeties of auxins, gibberallins, and cytokines. we know the different plant structures in cannabis, based on their origin, by examining the terpene profiles, growth characteristics we can make an educated guess of the hormone profile of that cannabis variety, looking into this I found a correlation between hormone levels and terpene profiles. its not one thing or the other, every action has a reaction in the plant I am sharing my observed connections, I used AI to help sort information and assist in the pondering process, I am not asscoiated with any institution and all studies have been done personally, i have no experience in a lab or scientific institution, yet I consider my finding 100% valid at this point. when post was started it was just a theory but i have been able to pinpoint specifically. regardless of my background i am confident if anyone can prove me wrong good, like i said i dont want to believe misinformation, but i know it will not happen. if someone can prove me wrong i will humbly put my head down, but i know thats not going to happen i am that confident in my findings.
so chatgpt told you this?
You haven’t noticed it flat out makes shit up?!?
See Eg: Help finding a terpene paper
Which is why you told thumper to be more scientific when he asked for specifics?
And you’re at “prove me wrong, I know this because the robot told me, and it makes sense”?!?
You’re claiming causation, without any experimental data.
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this was over a month long investigation not a simple question to chat gpt, your making implications, it can flat out make shit up sometimes that why you have to double check everything that comes out of it. if you want to follow my investigation start at the beginning of my blog, and follow it to the last post you can see how based on the evolution of knowledge and understanding developed this conclusion due to critial thinking not chatgpt specifically
. Green Queen Genetics
Understand, I am just trying to share my finding at this point not prove them I do not have the scientific expertise or equiptment or resources to do such a indepth research that would be requiered, what I can do is show the connections that I have seen in hopes that it could potentially help someone in the scientific community looking into this and using my research as a compression to theirs ect. my stepbrother is a well known chemist and he is rigid in his thinking compared to me, i may not have the same educatio,but with an open mind, and the desire to know, i was able to come up with some interesting finding.in my opinon. the only reason i was rude with thumper was because he was irritating me with his condesending responses, that we know looking back at his history of messages in this conversation was posted will not the best intentions, it was posted with the intention of irritating me and pointing out that i didnt use the word humidity , and asking for results he knows i didn’t have access too.
Ah, so you’re assuming intent. A smidge more reading would make it clear that assumption was wrong.
Thumper asked if you had data. You don’t. You got defensive.
Maybe you should apologize…
If you could show even three strain profiles that demonstrated the correlations you’re claiming as causation we might be able to have the discussion you claim you want.