It’s exactly the same. An apprentice electrician gets paid diddly in $$ while they are learning because the value they are getting is the education.
Same reason I worked for free
If you are getting minimum (or no) wage for a job you had no skills for coming in, then after gaining those skills you demand a raise. If the employer says no, I can’t or won’t, you take those skills elsewhere. Because now you are a more valuable skilled laborer
I see what you mean, I was thinking more along the lines of someone who went to trade school but had no physical experience, and hiring them to do that job.
As opposed to the bag boy reference.
Trade school imparts skills onto the unskilled, and typically the unskilled pays the school for that privilege
I’d say school imparts knowledge, but rarely skills. More often than not skills are developed over time with hands on experience, imo.
Probably both, pretty sure at trade school you get your hands dirty at least somewhat, right?
Indeed you do, a far cry from reality but they do. I went for electrical actually, lol.
It must super nice to come into this world skilled at everything.
I’ve always had to educate myself and fail forward before I got skilled at anything
My last real job paid electrician apprentices with no experience 25-30/hr plus per diem to pull wire on top of pipe racks
All people deserve the right to live modestly in the wealthiest country in the world, the fact that we discard people who have “no value” is disgusting
Never. weed is the bonus.
I wouldn’t make some poor kid do it for me just so he can eat and live. That’s slavery. Like what you guys don’t like about the cartel… right, @ExTek90?
Speed runners make multiple rolls for the right stats 
You attain knowledge by doing things. Books help to start off though.
Those poor employees who have to work??? what are you saying? To work is slavery?
We’re talking degenerate wooks who expect to be paid blood money for lifting a finger. I have a few who work for me now. I know them well, unfortunately. I can barely get them to clean something correct, I’m constantly correcting their shit work
I think agency problems and misaligned incentives promote shit work from hourly employees. Management and labor are adversarial by nature, if employees have no stake in the company’s success and the only incentive for good behavior is a lack of punishment, are you surprised that they don’t do well/take initiative?
That’s correct, slave labor is fucked. Consent is important. However, @SubstituteCreature made a fantastic point in the form of manufactured consent.
Life is complicated.
There are people in the world that are happy to scavenge food and clothing out of trash, a small portion of those people choose it even.
I better take a picture because that shit doesn’t happen often.
I appreciate everyone’s responses. I will only let it push my career forward, and I know it wasn’t a waste of time. As far as the unskilled labor thing, I understand both sides. I have no lack of work ethic or desire to learn. I actually got my start in the industry by moving across the country and getting an associates in cannabis laboratory science, then interning for a local hydrocarbon processor. After graduation I started with jushi and helped build out the entire lab (we had an empty building when I started.)
I feel I was a valuable tech, before landing that job I spent countless hours scouring this website for any knowledge I could soak up, as well as joining GLG in hopes it’d land me the job. When I got the job, I was doing everything I could to prove I was a worthy hire. We all worked very hard assembling and building out the lab .
I built out the infusions compliancy calculator excel spreadsheet for carts. I also made many recommendations on equipment during buildout.
I feel that in increasing distillate production by 25% in my first month “taking the reigns” after the manager got fired should have shown that I add value to the company. These were from direct changes in process that I made.
I don’t take my time there as a loss, rather a great learning experience with poor structure. After all, I got to learn the ins and outs of CO2 extraction and distillation. I honestly didn’t expect this post to get this much attention. I wish all of you the best, and appreciate the words of support.
The only incentive I have to keep people employed is quality work. If you do shit work, you can find your paycheck and next meal somewhere else. that’s what motivated me to success, fear of not being able to feed myself or my family….
Some folks just don’t care, and I can’t teach them to care.
You talk like I should give someone a percentage of the company for cleaning a plastic bucket
To be clear, I wasn’t unhappy working for what I was being paid. I was unhappy with the absolute lack of plan for progression for any employee. When asked, they simply told us to keep working hard as they were still ironing that out. When I was hired however, I was told there was going to be a tier system for the technicians. One where you progress from 1 up to 3 as you learn the various machines and processes and become confident in them and training others. This was all brushed under the table once production started. I trained 3 seperate employees by the time I was let go, as I was the only one certified by the manufacturer on our co2 system and distillation system. That was moreso why I was salty- that and the complete lack of warning before getting shit canned😅.
if you give them a stake in their own success, most people seem to care a good deal more. Low paying hourly jobs with no performance incentives are in abundance, just because cannabis is “cool” doesn’t mean people will magically be more motivated
is the job worth doing? if it is you should pay a comfortable wage or do it yourself
That hit home. It did feel like they were heavily relying on our love of the plant and interest in the process. Which is fine, and why we did great work. I take pride in doing my best no matter the job. The lack of incentive to perform and recognition of increased performance started to hinder the entire building.