@seth so you used landraces or p1 strains that no one else ever has had on this planet? i just find that very very very hard to believe. maybe a few landraces but its not like all GW (which didnt exist before 1998) could have landraces that no one else had…? you did the inbreeding and testing for the pentyl/propyl no doubt, but if people had the room/money/time and access to the testing as easily, anyone could do it or essentially “get lucky” by using the same landraces that GW/you used and through inbreeding/testing do the same thing… obviously most wont have the space/money/ access to the testing. considering 99.5% of strains are polyhybrids and not true p1s or landraces
I think the future is in thc
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yes, as a grower/farmer. i suggest to all of us growers to get together and sell direct to to public at deeply deeply discounted prices. let’s quit ringing our hands and fuck up this market. get rid of the guy who wants insanely cheap oil only to continue charging $70 for 1 gram mixed with mct oil. farmers, we need to knee cap a bitch and stop the retarded farmer madness. quit chewing your nails and selling your fucking souls for a penny. 300 acre farm, been in family well over 100 yrs. i’ve watched the farmer eat its own tail too many times to count. i’d sooner light it up for a youtube spectacular than sell to a bunch of bitches. as a retired person, i would have done it in a heart beat. wouldn’t even have to think about it.
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Agreed - it seems like things are moving to the tobacco model (with the most profitable companies being manufacturers+branding houses who can set prices & drop farmers on a whim). As a farmer getting your skin in the retail/branding game is a big risk, but if successful would turn the entire farming industry on its head. And I don’t mean a small scale vertically integrated brand, but maybe a large multinational co-op that allocates a % of revenue towards manufacturing and distribution, and also has a voting/congress structure of sorts for both the entire entity and regional groups. I guess I’m basically describing an OPEC for hemp/cannabis.
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That’s a sound idea Crypto. Unfortunately, it seems like the sleaziest actors are the ones rising to the top currently. If I get one more shit offer on futures, i’m going to uninstall outlook.
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the farmer could easily make 10 bucks a gram. pkg, label, bottle for 5. sell 1000 mgs for $15. non profit co-op
Not one step in that process is easy.
Production is difficult. Labeling is difficult. Bottling is difficult.
The insurance alone is prohibitive to small vending.
There are available strains this year 2020 that will meet the regulatory guidelines for trimmed flower. I have seen the results for all necessary testing with my own eyes.
Why when CBG is more valuable?
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Because it allows for the synthesis of using one cannabinoid to create two more. And… no more CBD THC remediation needed
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In what areas of the US besides Oregon have you conducted test grows? I am especially interested in anyone growing your genetics in Kentucky. I tried four varieties from Oregon (the state, not your company) and the early flowering let to early finishing, and about one fourth the yield. Is that something I should expect from any variety developed in Oregon?
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annnddd what were “dave watsons” seeds/clones/genetics… lineage that made his plants that were given/sold to GW? were those made with 100% landraces and/or REAL p1s? if its 100% landrace genetics that was then worked by @seth and there company, then essentially anyone can take landraces genetics and put it the time/space/money and have them propyl/pentyl tested etc otherwise if genes are being selectively turned on/off… well.
not quite as cut and dried as that. given the fidelity of DNA synthases, there are new mutations in essentially every gamete. So sifting through landrace genetics might turn up the same alleles, or alleles of the same genes, but that is not a given if what @Seth et al. isolated were de novo mutations.
quite probably. if developed for Oregon. having the rains arrive before the flowers are done doesn’t work well. “early flower” means photo-period responsive and responds to that shift early. planting those too close to the equator is not the ideal way to make use of your available growing season.
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Thanks. So maybe Matterhorn would be better for my climate?
I don’t see any information of where it was developed…so unable to answer that question.
If developed in Switzerland, it will likely flower earlier than plants developed for even Northern Oregon…
They’re doing a giveaway contest right now. They have most of the information about it on their site. Giving 2000 seeds to 10 people.
So the defensive patent is just you saying you’ve done this and can continue to do it in the case that somebody else tries to patent it exclusively for themselves? If I understand correctly, that should be good for the industry as a whole. If one group already has this defensive patent, wouldn’t that make it nearly impossible for another group to come along and gain exclusive rights to the technique, essentially keeping it available to all? Or can somebody acquire exclusivity with you being sort of grandfathered in with them?
I’m genuinely just curious of the process and not trying come off as a douche, if somebody is able to do their own breeding work with similar genetic inputs, independent of any information from Oregon CBD, and this work leads to the same gene(s) being altered with the same result of CBG accumulation, would that interfere with your patent? Are there multiple genes that can be altered to lead to CBG accumulation or do you believe you’ve found the one(s)? Or if they accomplished the same goal of CBG accumulation with different genetic inputs but the same genes for CBG are present, would that infringe on your patent? Or no, because of the different overall sequence?