So.. Trying to blow the doors off of Crystallization

:pleading_face::pleading_face::pleading_face: ohhhh stop, before you get me in my feels…

I’m just a dude who wants to see this stuff happen.

Just hoping I can prove my viability, and that I can do stuff too.

Thank you from a fellow well wisher, hope this conversation has helped.

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Is there a more firm % number than a few drops per an unknown volume?
Can you use hemp-derived terps in lieu of botanical or HTE to start the crash?
Cycling 85-100 degrees for 2-4 weeks?

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I have never tried to crystallize diamonds but as soon as my filter media arrives i’m going to.
Something that confuses me is why don’t people use a 6" x 12" or 12" x 12" stainless spool / Splatter platter, with end caps and a valve ? ( maybe even a sight glass )
Thermal conductivity is better than glass, SHC is better than glass, its not fragile and it wont explode under the pressure.
Most people here would have such things as part of they’re setups and the worry of atmospheric contamination is also reduced.
Or is stainless not plausible for THCa crystallization?

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People do use them, but most find being able to see the crystal growth more clearly useful in determining if/when to burp the vessel to further supersaturate and so on. I also imagine it might be easier to grow larger stones with a smaller area:depth ratio and a fairly shallow depth because it improves the ease of bulk transport of the precipitating solid to the existing crystals. Just a theory, I’m sure someone could say that’s just voodoo

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Now I understand the cost of a diamond miner and why people use them … Thank you

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It’s all voodoo man, there are plenty of ways to crack an egg, there are a lot of different ways to go at it, and with each differing variables to consider, effectiveness is just a part of outcome, it is all experimenting.

@TheGooMan hey bro just read the thread very informative! What do you run in your crc filter for media? About to start and just trying to get a good idea… i wanna start with w1 but its expensive compared to the b80 and t5 some people use!

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What solvent are you using here^^^ looks good, I think in theory, the small thin flat crystals would be clean of residuals quicker

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Sorry for not getting back sooner! 70/30 blend, run cold and fast.

My filtration media’s I use are differing upon materials, but T-5, T-41, Activated Alumina, and Silica

Hello, new to the game of crystals.

Just wanted to share something idk if helpfull to annyone cause like I said new to to game (but have done a shit ton of reading)

I grow this strain at the moment(First I tried this on) mimosa by barneys farm (very limoene smell, one actually smells like lemon) - 22-28% thc (I gave one bud and it tested at 24.someting)

I tried with fresh harvest straight from plant/ dried/cured / mixed strain batch, no freezing, no cold extraction.

Room temp material>bho extraction (left a little excess butane) > small jar > seal lid > temp+time. On al different ways it crashed out shokingly well in 2/3days.

Last batch day 3:

:sob:I can upload a pic or clip, but then it says I cant post with embedded media?

As I mentioned been reading alot, and my high brain for reasons not known to me😭seems to think it has something to do with the girls smelling like straight up lemon.

And as a smoker/18 years of growing + testomony from long time smokers that this is the most lemon like smell and taste we have since to this day. So it must have a insane limoene content (I guess)

So no super cold extraction, no freezing material, no crc(Just learned thanks community) just shit smelling like a lemon.

Peace and thanks for having me.

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Update on the Mimosa crystals🤣

This is batch 4 and the best crystals I made to date (Just started jar tek) started forming like straight away those pics are about day 6

This was day 3 I believe:

Again: live from the plant, no drying, no freezin just butane and blasted straight after harvest

Dried/cured and fresh this chick just wants to crash out😂 this is her about 2/3 days before harvest

Mimosa x orange punch> Barneys Farm

Idk are crystals supposed to go this fast?:joy::rofl:or am I just lucky with this strain, like I said im a noob but reading made me think this should not be so easy speccially with fresh unfrozen materiaal, crc or any fancy stuff I deff am going to do in the future.

And sinds I found out how to post the pics of the other ones I experimented with here they are.

This was a try at getting as much terps off by washing with cold butane.

This was I believe my second try.

This was I believe my first try 2/3 months ago(idk😂high all the time)

Thanks for having me and nice day to all!

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I got info on a cossolvent crystallization I’ve repeated a few times, take bho crude, from the honeypot pour into the 1500ml ball jar, then shake it occasionally untill its essentially no longer very reactive, and gets pretty thick, then add ethanol to the sludge cap and leave it. Don’t stir it in just leave it so the ethanol is a layer and the bho is a layer, when you go to make it into distillate you find out it grew some real nice crystals.
Edit:room temp no heat

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With the spicey gas, for those doing re x,
One could pour several smaller jars, (smaller because too much and it traps terps)
Leaving it very wet with butane, like blow the lid off wet, at -21c somewhere between 8 and 24hours it will crash all thc, then pour off the mother and purge the solvent,
Your left with a pure white thc-a sand thats as clean as some centrifuge photos I’ve seen.
Then proceed to re x.

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Your methodology has some tightening up, but you are doing everything correctly in the spirit of experimentation!

Some strains can argue differently with you. There’s a LOT of loose variables there that can alter crystalline dynamics and play with your solution.

Not having a way to “dry” your solution could be problematic if you have moisture content in your plant material.

Will post follow ups here shortly.

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Seperated the latest batch!

Bigger stones to blow peoples mind around here would be fun!

But for personal use i kinda dont really want to get bigger than this.
(this is perfect for rolling my dutch style joints with tabbaco)

the fact that you did NOT freeze might be the key here. folks have known for years that moisture would cause shatter to nucleate. water is acting as an anti-solvent. pretty sure the first pan tek SOP I saw had “add 100ul water” in the notes.

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Would properly cured cannabis/trim also leave enough moisture for that to happen?

Or humidity? We bassicly under a cloud here 24/7🤣

Hmm you got me thinking about water and ph🤣 thanks it gave me some inspiration!!

Always love thinkering with stuff.

Were you replying to me btw? If so, I understand most of what is prefferable when it comes to extractions of different kinds with different solvents and or machines.

Most solvent related stuff about crystals I learned here.

Only I dont have excess to the stuff needed to go pro like that, so I bassicly went it did it the most basic way I know I could pull it off.

Theres many things I would like to try and thinker with

But next is use dry ice to flash freeze or something idk, the sauce makes me feel like Musk cant reach me, but if I had money it would be some crazy cryo freezer.

Closed loop>diamond miner is on my mind. Build small one or order and go the pro route.

As far as I understand points of nucleation are caused by energy moving at different speeds at different points in the saturated/super saturated solution?

That what we actually try to do right at the right rates/speeds of our prefference for size? Im legit asking so to know if im kinda thinking right been reading stuff al over.

Idk if right I barely made high school, but HIGH school damn masters degree😂

Got vacuum already pulls that pulls -30/-31 max.

And honestly😂this site has helped me so much, that terp sauce what was left after sepperating the crystals the best thing I tasted yet, hooked😂friends al love it too.

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Love the idea of fresh unfrozen runs, I’m gonna hafta play with that one day!

I’m sorry, that threw me. I thought perfect vacuum was -29.92, sometimes it’ll be rounded to -30. Awesome extracts BTW

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