Well, I feel that there is still my gas in the dewax after pushing it with the nitrogen. Does anyone have the secret to be able to make my pass by extracting all the resin from the tube and avoiding that there is still gas in the dewax? , I know that this topic does not come in relation to the post. but it’s a headache that I’m going through
PD:I still don’t use CRC, my closeloop is passive
Hi bro, I’m trying to do the same experiment you are doing, but I can’t find something similar to your mining equipment … where did you buy them?
I’m pretty sure he made most of it.
I made the stainless vessel, lid, teflon bucket and lid. I bought the clamp and fittings for the valves.
What do you need?
I have two of these…one of them needs a home if anyone is interested
If I am interested in acquiring one, it is to make my live resin carts. I would not like them to lose too many terps. you leave me a message ?
Sure, feel free to DM me.
Vacuum checked the vessel yesterday. My diaphragm pump only pulls to -29gh, but with such a tiny vessel it happens almost instantly.
Last night I loaded the vessel, tightened the fittings, tossed it in the freezer over night. Pulled the vessel out this morning, nice and frosty. Hooked up my vacuum pump, would only pull to -25hg, left it running for about 10 minutes and it’s slowly worked down to -28hg.
I wonder why it’s having such a hard time pulling vac? I kinda packed the live resin in there kinda tight, is there pockets of air trapped in the oil or something? Is -29hg suitable?
You’re not supposed to FILL the vessel if you’re going to then generate CO2 in there…
Ideally vac, backfill with N2, vac, backfill, vac. So you’ve got less O2 in there.
Is 29in Hg enough? There’s math you could do to figure how much less O2 you have in there. Less is better. You have less than atmosphere, which means you should at least be better off than decarbing at atmospheric.
By struggling to pull a deeper vac you’ve probably pulled terpenes. Going to 28” and then backfilling would probably avoid most of that.
No N2? Run what you brung. Just make sure there is plenty of head space.
There is plenty of head space, the spool is 3"x6", there is maybe 2"-2.5" of oil in there. The resin was soft and crumbly so wanted to condense it, I kind of mushed the resin down and formed kind of a puck in the bottom. I didn’t use that much pressure though, I just wanted to get it into the bottom to create as much head space as possible. I didn’t want to suck any loose soft pieces into my vacuum, so I just kinda mushed it all together.
I was just surprised that the vacuum would instantly pull to 29" yesterday, but it was struggling to get to 28" with frozen resin. I guess it was having a hard time pulling trapped oxygen from the resin.
Likely you were pulling terps from -28 on down.
The oil turned out fantastic. Great color, smells pretty much the same as it went in. Completely decarbed, almost too terpy. I dug out a glob with a tool from the chilled vessel, the oil quickly came to ambient temp of 70’f and became very fluid. Holding the tool still for a moment, the glob will move and try to drip off. You can keep it on the tool by slowly spinning, but just a second of still and it wants to run.
I’ll have to load up the cart farmer and do some test carts, this stuff might be ready.
I have a few grams dissolved in some ethanol in the freezer as a sample, I’ve never personally had a oil that dissolved as cleanly and completely as this, I may not have to winterize.
I’m kinda concerned about my carts. I use wolkentek ceramics and ccell M6T which is poly. I believe the ccell will be fine as long as the terps are 8% or less, but I have no way of telling with this stuff.
These carts don’t last long if that changes anything. These won’t sit on a shelf for a year, they will be gone in 2-4 months
Wolks should be fine. I fill and store mine in a fridge for storage. They usually live in there for 2 months max.
I recently decarbed some THCa I had separated in the fuge. The HTE fraction was significant in volume after separation, but that doesn’t always mean high terp volume. I mixed all the HTE back into the decarbed THCa, wanting the carts to be an exact representation of the extract it was made with. It was too damn much. Terps burning your nose and shit. I was then concerned with viscosity in those carts as it was noticably thinner, but the wolks have done well.
the terp burn is a concern. when dabbing, I dabbed a bit too hot once and kind of got some terpy throat burn. think ill fill some carts and try it outs. If they’re too terpy, I guess I can get the oil warm and volatilize some off. I would prefer less terp to constant terpy nose/throat burn. When I did shatter carts and winterized/decarbed, I would volatilize most of the terp off, making the oil feel very firm and sometimes snap at refrigerator temps, then add 5-6% hemp/canna terps, just enough to fill can function well.
I want the carts to have good flavor, but I don’t want it too terpy, test carts are needed.
edit: another option, get some clean diamonds to melt down, combine with the oil to balance it out.
This is the ticket
So I’m not sure if it passed the ethanol test or not. I would say no, but I maybe overly critical. I dissolved 1-2 grams into 1oz of ethanol, 12 hours in the freezer, small but noticeable coagulation in the center. Small, but was easy to spot, even from a few feet away. For sure the cleanest starting material I’ve had.
Went ahead and loaded a cart to see
Eh, I guess I’ll winterize, it’s cloudier then I would like
If you winterize then you’ll definitely change the terp profile by evaporating the ethanol back out…Unless you’ve got some tricks up your sleeve.
I see nothing wrong with the cart pictured personally.
Looks like I only got a partial decarb and that’s probably what’s mainly causing the cloudiness in the cart. The oil in the cart isn’t nearly as liquid and runny as it was when I filled it. The sample I pulled yesterday was from refrigerated oil, the oil was very thick and I pulled my sample from the very top surface. Checked my vessel and oil at 70’f ambient temp, dug just below the surface found some thca chunks still, hand stirred and broke them up to try to disperse them more evenly. It has a nice unfiltered honey appearance.
Edit for afternoon update:
Dips pinky in, taste needs more decarb
edit: evening update. got home, the vessel had completely crystalized. I bought a setup from glacier tanks like linked above, but the triclamp on the bottom is the only thing making contact with the hot plate. Not getting good surface contact, because the bottom of the spool is elevated 1/4 from the hot plate. Im relying on the hot plate to heat the tri clamp, which then heats the vessel. My ir thermal sensor cannot read the stainless steel. I’ve ordered a k type thermometer that will arrive tomorrow. Yesterday I ran at 120’c for 3 hours. Today I started at 140’c for 2 hours, but the vessel didnt feel very warm, raised it to 150’c for now, vessel spool is finally getting too hot to touch
debating on buying one of these.
https://www.amazon.com/T-PRO-Sheathed-Thermocouple-0-1000℃-Compensating/dp/B074375LJR/ref=sr_1_95?dchild=1&keywords=k+type+thermometer&qid=1621296995&s=industrial&sr=1-95
I have a lid with two npt fittings on the top, can use one fitting with a cross that has a vacuum gauge, prv and npt/valve. then the other fitting can be this probe, that way I can get a reading on actual oil temps
You just need a pressure gauge to estimate full liberation of CO2 from THCa.
So are we ok to openly talk about scaling up the decarb (for carts) step now?
I feel like everyone has done it, but no one here talks too much about it.
Would like to discuss SOPs, temps, times, etc. Anyone else want to share besides me?
We’re just starting up on our cart line now and can share some more data as time goes. we did a few different variations this time, with thca separated from HTE and that thca much longer to fully decarb vs the thca and hte combined that we decarbed.
were using a diamond miner style decarb vessel that i bought parts for off BVV and glacier tanks.
We did 100c for about 24 hours for the thca and hte together.
